If I see different aspects of a problem it doesn't mean I have affinities with all of them, it means that I can see them, that I am aware of their existence as someone else's possible arguments, that I acknowledge them, but without delving deeper.Corribus wrote: What doesn't make sense is you stating "If I were to nitpick, I would say X" and then when I ask why you would say X, you say, "I didn't say X! I just said that I would say X if I was going to nitpick." But saying you were going to say X if you were going to nitpick basically is saying X, or that you have an affinity for X, and so I wanted to know why you believe in X. It's like saying, "If I was going to get some icecream, I'd want chocolate chip." And then when I ask you why you want chocolate chip, you say, "I didn't say I wanted chocolate ship. I just said I would want chocoalte chip IF I was going to get icecream." But obviously you like chocolate chip icecream, otherwise you wouldn't have said you wanted it if you were going to get icecream.
In this case, my "If I were to nitpick" statement could indeed be the argument of someone who doesn't believe that "They're all exploitation".
I hope it passed.Corribus wrote: And now I have a headache.
To be honest, I did feel that way before engaging into this discussion, but I had never given the issue very much thought -- it was an instinctual reaction of some sort. (Maybe having do to with your "answer on a society-scale"? It would be interesting to hear your theory). A tentative explanation of my reaction would be that maybe sex is fundamentally different from alcohol, tobacco and violence. The latter have a distinct negative connotation, at least in my mind, while the connotation of the former, in my mind, is primarily positive. So using something that I perceive as positive to SELL stuff, to gain MONEY, just doesn't click with me. However, as I said, this is just a tentative explanation, I can't guarantee this is the exact same process that determined my reactions.Corribus wrote:
The point is that you obviously feel that exploiting sexual desire is worse than exploiting alcohol, tobacco, bad food or any other vice. Otherwise you wouldn't have added the nitpicking statement. That's fine for you to feel that way, btw. Obviously our society does feel that way. I want to know why, although I already have my own answer (on a society-scale) anyway. I want to know why YOU feel that way.
I added the nitpicking statement because that's the way I discuss things. I always try to see other aspects. I don't believe doing this can endanger my own standpoint in any way.
But then my opinion changed because of your example with junk food killing more people than sex, and when the change occurred, it came naturally, as it makes very much sense.
What I want to stress is the fact that my initial reaction was instinctual, that it was something that I felt more than consciously thought.