Zombies, beware!

[Wolfsburg]

Had to print screen this. He is probably the type who goes sauer for a whole day when gets beaten on street fighter too...

And kids, the moral is: If you take it with class, people wont find your reaction pitiful.

[ThunderTitan]

And kids, the moral is: If you take it with class, people wont find your reaction pitiful.

Also, if you know the meaning of the word sarcasm you'll see less of this:

[HodgePodge]

Huh, he really got banned (what a surprise), but who knows if he may not be one of the new members ...nah

Or one of the old ones.

[Wolfsburg]

In case anyone has an interest on it, this is perhaps the only chance I get for posting this kind of thing.

When we of the medical field say dry bones we are not implying they are like dry wood. It has, matter of fact nothing to do with humidity conditions. Bones are divided in two parts, an organic one (composed of cholagen, blood vessels, fat and bonemarrow) and a mineral one, which is basicaly crystals of calcium piled up.

This organic part of the bones is not accessible to the big cleansing agents (worms, bugs, etc) this means they are usually consumed only by bacterias. Therefore it demmands more time to be completely consumed after death.

The older the skeleton is, the less organic thei bones are = the drier they get. Old skeletons brake easier than new skeletons.

I assume that in this case the only way to "kill" a skeleton is, pulverizing his bones with large fractures to prevent their mobility. Which shouldnt be particularly hard since they´re probably "dry".

In other hand, muscles cannot be broken (theyre not made of mineral crystals, but from complex cholagen proteins) they can only be ruptured. How many people you know who got a muscle fracture? I never heard of one. The amount of kilograms needed to rupture muscle is much higher than those to break single bones (Zombies 17hp skellies 5).

In this case we can say that theoreticaly zombies are one of the most resilient creatures on HOMM, because, they dont have a blood circulation or a brain demmand for oxygen. That means they dont fear liver ruptures, intestin perforations, artery cuts, muscle or bone damage. Their movements have nothing to do with brain commands and their strenght has nothing to do with glucose consumption on the muscles. They are mistically animated with the single purpose of killing.

Then probably the only question in this matter I cannot answer is: how the f*** do you kill a zombie afterall?

They should be Tier 7.

Zombie Dragon?


Jeez...

P.S: It takes a whole guide of how to kill things in Necropolis... hehehe

[ThunderTitan]

That's why swords are sharp...

Bones are divided in two parts, an organic one and a mineral one.

And given enough time they become rock... but the principle remains, it easier to brake something that's less in thickness.

In other hand, muscles cannot be broken they can only be ruptured. How many people you know who got a muscle fracture? I never heard of one.

RUPTURE:
Main Entry: broken
Part of Speech: adjective
Definition: destroyed

[Wolfsburg]

1 - You realize im not writing in my mother language, I assume. Ruptura(e) is the word used in all latin languages to define soft tissue disjuction.

2 - Dude, be humble. The reason I dont comment programming is because id make a fool of myself. The definitions you search in Encyclopedia Britanica or hell knows where dont mean a thing. Im using the terminologies that are currently used in the medical science. And that has little to do with their latin origins. (although rompere and fractionare are cognates)

If you come to a radiology congress and speak of bone rupture you´d be laughed at. Ligaments, muscles, and soft tissue get ruptured, bones, teeth, hair and nails, are the only possible tissues to get fractured (because they have a hard structure)

Besides theres no point discussing etymology. You got precisely what I mean ages ago. You can snap a bone in two, but not a football sock. A football sock can only be torn up, and depending on the material, you will just not be able to do it (Muscles are that hard to tear up).

... but the principle remains, it easier to brake something that's less in thickness.

Thats not what separate muscle from bone injury, even if you want it very bad.

Now, im not discussing it further. You questioning doesnt stem from scientifical curiosity or appetite for knowledge-sharing. You just want to be right. This is the kind of debate that gets other people bored and brings nothing new to me.

[Corribus]

What the heck are you guys talking about? Sheesh, I leave a thread alone for five minutes and look what happens...

[Wolfsburg]

Heheheh, you are absolutely right Corribus. Ill delete the posts!


Sorry there!

Oops, I can only delete fresh posts...

Feel free getting the moderators to delete them!

[winterfate]

@Corribus: Shh...don't tell them off. This conversation is...interesting.

[Omega_Destroyer]

Ah, caught in a never-ending debate with Titan. Good times Wolfsburg, good times.

[theLuckyDragon]

Why do the Zombies in H3 and 5 have weapons and the ones in 2 & 4 fight with their bare hands (or limbs, or whatever...)?

[MistWeaver]

If you come to a radiology congress and speak of bone rupture you´d be laughed at. Ligaments, muscles, and soft tissue get ruptured, bones, teeth, hair and nails, are the only possible tissues to get fractured (because they have a hard structure)

Yeah! And the reason why we are gathered today at radiology congress is .... wait a minute.. we are not at radiology congress

[Wolfsburg]

Oh cmon now... MistWeaver AND Titan against this vampire is too much.

Point is, Mist. If you are not able to attend to a radiology congress you are in no position to teach me about bone injury.

...
It would be actually quite interesting to write a guide on how to hurt-kill things in Necropolis. Ill try that if I get enough time, if I find it good, Ill post it sometime.

That's why swords are sharp...

And what do you do with a sharp sword? Zombie's brains are dead and rotten, their mobility, aggressivity or choices have nothing to do with it. Decapitation would be good as nothing...

P.S - Oh and there is one more tissue-complex in our body which can be fractured. But if Id mention it, Id be banned.

[theLuckyDragon]

Well maybe the anatomy and physiology of Ashan creatures is absolutely different from that of Earth creatures.

[Wolfsburg]

Well maybe the anatomy and physiology of Ashan creatures is absolutely different from that of Earth creatures.

Nice argument.

Against that one theres nothing I can say.

If Ubisoft tells us that the new disease zombies can have their muscles breaken, theres nothing I can discuss about it. This is fantasy.

But my anatomycal approach still wouldnt sound bad if you check how this all started. With a nicely elaborated joke I made about cropping zombies, for purposes of fun only.

Another arguments I couldnt possibly discuss would be...

"I find them ugly anyway" or "I find them bad developed" or even "I find their concept absolutely stupid"

I think TT should have used those from the beggining. We would have spared the other members of hearing this whole discussion.

[MistWeaver]

Oh cmon now... MistWeaver AND Titan against this vampire is too much.

Point is, Mist. If you are not able to attend to a radiology congress you are in no position to teach me about bone injury.

And my point is, as far as we are not at the "radiology congress" we don't need to discuss what word to use to describe zombie's broken azz.

[Wolfsburg]

Necromancers learned that, the more muscle they have left, the more sturdy they are.

I think that has more to do with the same principle of why it's harder to break 5 sticks of wood put together then one. And dry bones are easy to brake because they are dry, not because they lack muscles.

Entry: broken
Part of Speech: adjective
Definition: destroyed

I dont remember having it started.

[Wolfsburg]

Ah, caught in a never-ending debate with Titan. Good times Wolfsburg, good times.

And by the previous fame of your partner I guess im not the only one who gets stuck in eschizofrenical debates with him.

[ThunderTitan]

Point was that while 2 different words are used they imply the same thing... saying that bones can't be raptured and muscles can't be broken (while correct by terminology or linguistics or whatever) doesn't change that both can be damaged in the same way by the same tools.

As for cutting zombies, same principle as breaking the skeletons bones... it's just that there's more mass for to cut in the case of the zombies, which is why they have more life.

[Wolfsburg]

See what a fantastic waste of time:

* Independent of your enovative thickness theory you are hopelessly defending my point of view that zombies should be ressurected as soon as possible so they have more muscle on them (which would make them "thicker" an harder to cut).

* Which brings us to the point where we begun, after getting the whole audience to sleep.