What do you do when you get crappy skills on level up?

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What do you do when you get crappy skills on level up?

Unread postby DigitalMocking » 11 Oct 2006, 00:11

Are you just replaying the last fight to get better skills?

Is there a trainer that lets you change your character skills around? I've gotten the worst luck on skills doing the warlock campaign, its frustrating.

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Unread postby maltz » 11 Oct 2006, 02:06

Unfortunately, the skills you get are FIXED when you start the mission. So unless you choose different skills from the start, you usually can't make any different skill choice to pop up. There are a few exceptions, though.

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Unread postby Sir_Toejam » 11 Oct 2006, 02:15

cheat and give yourself the skills you want, if you are really frustrated.

http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/he ... ills.shtml

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Unread postby maltz » 11 Oct 2006, 02:27

What I like to do is a lesser form of evil... :D

At the beginning of a mission, I save the game, then I use the cheat code:

@ChangeHeroStat('hero's name',0,1000000)

to give my main hero exp to level to the cap.
This way I can take a good look at what I am going to get.
If I am not happy about it I will restart the mission and repeat.
If I am happy (happens only 20% of the time, actually), then I will load the save and play alone.

Technically speaking, I follow the game mechanism, as I only get what is possible within the game mechanism. Just that I save a lot of time of restarting.

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Unread postby Caradoc » 11 Oct 2006, 05:05

You are still a cheater. Nya, nya, nya.
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Unread postby Grumpy Old Wizard » 11 Oct 2006, 09:16

You are more likely to get the skills and abilities you want if you don't take a lot of skills at once. Work on only a couple of skills at a time and then as you get closer to getting one of those "maxed" snag another skill that you want and so on.

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Unread postby Gaidal Cain » 11 Oct 2006, 15:15

I try to make sure I don't get crappy skills offered. That means having at least one skill not at expert, which means at least two level ups in which I have some freedom to choose. Also, I try to pick skills and abilities as often through the game so that the pool of the latter is kept down so that it's easier to avoid the ones I don't want.
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Unread postby mr.dna » 18 Oct 2006, 08:49

Take the sub skills you want rather than main skills when offered. There's far more subskills so getting the right ones are more difficult than getting the right main skills.

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Unread postby Sir_Toejam » 18 Oct 2006, 21:56

just remember that to add additional perks/feats you need to increase the base level of the main skill first.

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Unread postby sylvanllewelyn » 18 Oct 2006, 23:32

In the unofficial guides, they have the probabilities for getting each skill for each class. It's as much a probability game as how much you need a certain skill, and how you change your plans if you don't get a certain skill. There's a reason why this is a strategy game, not an RPG.

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Unread postby PhoenixReborn » 19 Oct 2006, 00:12

sylvanllewelyn wrote:In the unofficial guides, they have the probabilities for getting each skill for each class. It's as much a probability game as how much you need a certain skill, and how you change your plans if you don't get a certain skill. There's a reason why this is a strategy game, not an RPG.
This may be so, but I will not pay extra money for information that should be in the in-box manual. It's tough to make a strategy when I don't konw the percentages...still, I come up with a plan by looking at the skill wheel, and I am nearly always able to achieve my plan.

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Unread postby Sir_Toejam » 19 Oct 2006, 00:46

... pay extra money for information that should be in the in-box manual
uh, pay extra money?

all the guides referred to are free.

both the fan made guide available at Ubi, and the CH guide available here.

both cover all the skills very well.

the fan-made guide goes into excruciating detail and has lots of perty pictures.

I prefer the CH manual for skills, simply because it's quicker to wade through.

did you need links?

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Unread postby HodgePodge » 19 Oct 2006, 00:47

I cheat! :-D Yeah, nothing better than being able to CHOOSE for yourself what skills your Hero gets. Why can't those stupid developers allow YOU, the gamer, to choose what skills YOU want for your Hero? This omission has been a bone of contention in my craw & a bane of dissonance on my enjoyment ever since I started playing computer games, many moons ago. :disagree:
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Unread postby Omega_Destroyer » 19 Oct 2006, 02:11

You could always just adapt to what you are offered.
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Unread postby Kilop » 19 Oct 2006, 03:38

yeah, I just tryed summonic destructive sorcery defense and logisic for a small MP map. And I had Lazzlo... Man, I roxxed, thatz Da UltiMaTE build
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