I think this is funny

Salisa · Unread postby **Salisa** » 19 Apr 2006, 00:31

When playing the campiagn (sp), that creature's of the oppsite faction rush to join my side repeatedly, while creature's from my own side take up arms againist me...

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 19 Apr 2006, 09:48

Huh? What map?

Orfinn · Unread postby **Orfinn** » 19 Apr 2006, 11:28

Can you please describe the whole thing a bit better?

Do you have diplomacy as an ability? Anyway its pretty random if a stacks join you or not, its unindependent of faction type. And it may help if you have a strong army (easier to persuade you know=).

Sir Alock · Unread postby **Sir Alock** » 19 Apr 2006, 11:47

Salisa wrote:When playing the campiagn (sp), that creature's of the oppsite faction rush to join my side repeatedly, while creature's from my own side take up arms againist me...

Strange...Are you saying like a stack of Hell Hounds wanted to join say your Heaven Army? I'm sure diplomacy & your large stack has something to do with it as Orfinn mentioned. Not really funny though...It happens sometimes.

Alex

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 19 Apr 2006, 13:05

Oh... ur talking about diplomacy. Might be because the creature of the week creatures have a better Disposition than the starting ones. Or someone mismatched it.

bethrezen · Unread postby **bethrezen** » 19 Apr 2006, 16:48

2 times the demons guarding the orepit join my hero before first assault and it helped a lot! They join to Isabel hero!

Caradoc · Unread postby **Caradoc** » 19 Apr 2006, 17:55

Is there a penalty for mixing factions?

Campaigner · Unread postby **Campaigner** » 19 Apr 2006, 18:08

Factions ougth to play a role in deciding that. Like +10% chance of joining if it's an allied alignment. +10% if it's your native alignment (starting). +10% if you got diplomacy. +10% if you got a powerful army.

I want the numbers but I wonder if we'll ever get them sinec Nival sure doesn't talk much.

Llefser · Unread postby **Llefser** » 19 Apr 2006, 18:20

If believabilty or immersion in the game is important to you, this has always been a problem with any HoMM maps that use random monsters. If I'm playing the benevolent ruler of the Preserve trying to save the world from evil necromancers, why on earth are these elves guarding their ore mine against me?

One of the big strengths of a well-designed custom map is that stacks of wandering monsters can be made to behave as the player would expect them to, and I hope that HV will make this possible via a good map editor.

Salisa · Unread postby **Salisa** » 19 Apr 2006, 19:58

I am referring to the Queens Campaign.. I'm not sure, does Godric start with diplomacy, as the very first Infernal creatures offered to join me. Yet, as I moved down to the sawmill , which was guarded by archer's, they wished to fight.. Yes I understand all the older HoMM games pretty much do the same thing, but I still think it's funny... If I'm so diplomatic why would troops of my own faction fight when the enemy troops love me.. maybe I should switch sides

Yes you loose Morale with to many different types of troops just like the older games do..

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