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Postby Angelspit » Jul 26 2006, 18:32

Acopy sends me tips on how to <a href="http://www.celestialheavens.com/582">capture a Dragon Utopia within the first month of a game</a>. In his example, he uses Haven troops, but the same result can probably be accomplished with another town as well. But it's not just about Utopia: Acopy's article will help you get the most out of the tactics phase, the creature sizes and the obstacles on the battlefield. Just click on the screens to enlarge them.

Special thanks to LaBoule who extracted all the info from a Powerpoint document. As a token of my appreciation, I will link back to the <a href="http://www.heroes.ag.ru/heroes5/advices/utopia/">original Russian version</a> of the document.

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Postby LordErtz » Jul 26 2006, 18:51

This has to be one of the most impressive things that I have seen from a strategy.

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Postby maltz » Jul 26 2006, 18:52

This is simply brilliant. :)

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Postby vicheron » Jul 26 2006, 19:04

You can do this without the obstacle if you have Tactics. Raise Dead also helps.

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Postby Alais_Servius » Jul 26 2006, 19:11

VERY impressive article! Great strategy here!

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Postby DaemianLucifer » Jul 26 2006, 19:12

Id say even more:great EXPLOIT there!

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Postby ThunderTitan » Jul 26 2006, 19:13

Last Stand might be usefull too if you can get it.
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Postby Ethric » Jul 26 2006, 20:01

DaemianLucifer wrote:Id say even more:great EXPLOIT there!


Heh, some will call anything but barging straight ahead an exploit :rolleyes:

Great guide there :tsup:
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Postby Nebs » Jul 26 2006, 20:25

What the hell is not an exploit in the game then?

Good job Acopy.

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Postby DaemianLucifer » Jul 26 2006, 22:02

Nebs wrote:What the hell is not an exploit in the game then?


In this game,or in games in general?In this game...well...urrr...hard to say really.

And please,using 6 single stack peasants to kill any number of dragons is a clear exploit.This just shows how small the BF actually is.Try that one in HIII and youll die horribly.

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Postby maltz » Jul 26 2006, 22:43

Neh it is not an exploit. The OP is not utilizing weird game glitches to make things happen the way that they should not happen. What doesn't make sense to me is how can so many marksman fit into a small space-time, disallowing the dragon's big body to make any contact.

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Postby ThunderTitan » Jul 26 2006, 22:52

Exploits are also strategies/tactics that allow you to defeat the opponent in a way the designers didn't intend.
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Postby asandir » Jul 27 2006, 0:28

good work there .... that is some excellent use of tactics and numerous 1 stacks
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Postby Ethric » Jul 27 2006, 0:34

ThunderTitan wrote:Exploits are also strategies/tactics that allow you to defeat the opponent in a way the designers didn't intend.


No they're not. That's being clever. But of course, those not clever often take refuge in calling every trick they themselves are incapable of concieving an exploit :devious:

Luring dumb leaderless dragons into a skillfully devised trap by sacrificing a few peasants, that's clever.
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Postby ThunderTitan » Jul 27 2006, 1:01

A clever exploit is still an exploit. And that one's clearly an AI exploit, as a human player would have creamed them Haven troops.
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Postby Kristo » Jul 27 2006, 1:04

Very nicely done! An excellent example of using your enemy's tactics against him.

Just out of curiosity, what is the effective range of Precise Shot? Given the size of the battlefield, I don't think there's really any way for the computer to defend against this. You can't kill Peasants without some Dragon stack being within range. And you're going to have to kill Peasants in order to win the fight. From the battle description, I think the AI did everything right and still suffered a devastating loss.

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Postby LordErtz » Jul 27 2006, 1:18

Kristo wrote:Very nicely done! An excellent example of using your enemy's tactics against him.

Just out of curiosity, what is the effective range of Precise Shot?



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Postby Orfinn » Jul 27 2006, 6:15

That was great :D

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Postby sezerp » Jul 27 2006, 6:58

> Try that one in HIII and youll die horribly

Not to mention the fact, that all 'creature banks' in H3 used special batllefield setup, to make conqering them harder and such tactics(exploits) were simply impossible. Well, there were tips to raid Naga Banks early in the game, but Dragon Utopias were for tough armies only.

Yet another nice feature dropped nobody knows why.
Edited on Thu, Jul 27 2006, 02:29 by sezerp

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Postby frozd » Jul 27 2006, 9:14

Nice exploit!


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