Heroes I-IV Poll

The old Heroes games developed by New World Computing. Please specify which game you are referring to in your post.

Whats your heroes?

Poll ended at 28 Jan 2009, 14:26

Heroes I
2
3%
Heroes II
17
21%
Heroes III
19
24%
Heroes IV
21
26%
Heroes IV
21
26%
 
Total votes: 80

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Unread postby Ethric » 25 May 2006, 16:46

Antosius wrote:But i just created acc here to say that heroes 4 were a total crap... Maybe most of the ppl checking these forums started playing heroes only few years ago or smth like that...
And that would be the reason someone like H4, that we are "newbies"? ;|
Antosius wrote: i dont know, but heroes 4 were worst because of... mixed factions


Mixed as opposed to...? Being different than in H2?
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Unread postby ThunderTitan » 25 May 2006, 17:27

Ethric wrote: And that would be the reason someone like H4, that we are "newbies"? ;|
No, we're just not True Fans. Or was that Real Fans? :devious:
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Unread postby Paulus1 » 25 May 2006, 18:11

Ethric wrote: And that would be the reason someone like H4, that we are "newbies"? ;|
That you haven't witnessed the glory of "old times" and just doesn't know any better :devious:

I guess his ideal development of heroes would have been eight expansion packs for Heroes II? ;|

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Unread postby Milla aka. the Slayer » 25 May 2006, 19:16

H4! The best ever :devil:
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Unread postby Paulus1 » 25 May 2006, 19:23

Have you tried Heroes 2 or 3??

Admitted, I'm mostly playing Heroes IV these days (trying to win all campaigns on impossible), but I used to prefer Heroes 3.

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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 25 May 2006, 19:30

Indeed,you should try HII and HIII.Even though there are some things in those I find outdated and I dont like,those are still legends among the games.

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Unread postby Antosius » 26 May 2006, 07:45

Ethric wrote:
Antosius wrote:But i just created acc here to say that heroes 4 were a total crap... Maybe most of the ppl checking these forums started playing heroes only few years ago or smth like that...
And that would be the reason someone like H4, that we are "newbies"? ;|
Antosius wrote: i dont know, but heroes 4 were worst because of... mixed factions


Mixed as opposed to...? Being different than in H2?
All i wanted to say was that heroes 4 were unbalanced - there were to many new features and thats what made it "not true heroes". The game has allready found his place and style, if they wanted to make something totaly new then they should create a new game and call it different... There are not many turn based strategy games out there but heroes 4 for me looked like trying to clone them all - the technology tree was stolen from Disciples, the battle system looked like from some other game ( i cant remember the name of it now, smth like "warlords"~ i think) and so on... And the things like when you kill lets say for example 100 peasants in one hit with your 1k peasants and they still retaliate made the game and all tactics in it terrible...
Ah and by the way , letting hero to fight in combat was also stolen from Disciples. (But the different is that in disciples your hero is usefull there.)

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Unread postby ThunderTitan » 26 May 2006, 08:06

Antosius wrote: (But the different is that in disciples your hero is usefull there.)
:lolu: :lolu: :lolu: :lolu: :lolu: :lolu: :lolu: :lolu: :lolu:

You haven't played much H4, have you? Damn killing machines the heroes were.
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Unread postby Paulus1 » 26 May 2006, 08:18

ThunderTitan wrote:
Antosius wrote: (But the different is that in disciples your hero is usefull there.)
:lolu: :lolu: :lolu: :lolu: :lolu: :lolu: :lolu: :lolu: :lolu:

You haven't played much H4, have you? Damn killing machines the heroes were.
:up: I second that.

Its a pain in the ass to keep low level heroes alive, but after smth like lvl 10, they don't really need an army, because they are so friggin strong.

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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 26 May 2006, 13:10

Antosius wrote: All i wanted to say was that heroes 4 were unbalanced - there were to many new features and thats what made it "not true heroes".
HII was unbalanced,yet it was "a true heroes" game.What exactly defines a true heroes game?It had the most important thing a heroes game needs:Heroes you could level up,interesting and unique factions and creatures,very nice skills you could level up,nice artifacts.Only the gameplay differed.So you didnt like it.Fine,but that doesnt mean the game was bad,just that it didnt appeal to you.
Antosius wrote: The game has allready found his place and style, if they wanted to make something totaly new then they should create a new game and call it different... There are not many turn based strategy games out there but heroes 4 for me looked like trying to clone them all
O please!It was one of the most innovative game I played!Unlike HV,that ripped off everything from HIII(well,not everything,since they failed to implement some of the more useful things).
Antosius wrote: - the technology tree was stolen from Disciples, the battle system looked like from some other game ( i cant remember the name of it now, smth like "warlords"~ i think) and so on...
So what?If you think of anything "new" these days,it will always be simmilar to something that already existed.There is no true innovation.Besides,implementing good things from other games isnt always a bad thing.
Antosius wrote: And the things like when you kill lets say for example 100 peasants in one hit with your 1k peasants and they still retaliate made the game and all tactics in it terrible...
Oh really?It is much more logical and tactical to slaughter a huge army with no losses at all?Sim retal is one of the most tactical things HIV implemented.
Antosius wrote: Ah and by the way , letting hero to fight in combat was also stolen from Disciples. (But the different is that in disciples your hero is usefull there.)
Next time play a game for more then 10 minutes before you bash it.

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Unread postby Black Ghost » 26 May 2006, 13:25

voted h2

h4 is second but contained too much bugs done to too rush 3DO release.
Thanks Eq. Mod many were delated

All in all h4 has huge potential but my sentiment to h2 is bigger. ;)

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Unread postby Ethric » 26 May 2006, 14:15

What's this reference to a "technology tree" in H4 by the way? Can't say I've ever seen one, at least not in the sense I understand the term technology tree in a gamereference.

The skillsystem? Which isn't a tree, more like 9 small shrubberies, if you want to be botanical about it.
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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 26 May 2006, 14:21

Ethric wrote:What's this reference to a "technology tree" in H4 by the way? Can't say I've ever seen one, at least not in the sense I understand the term technology tree in a gamereference.

The skillsystem? Which isn't a tree, more like 9 small shrubberies, if you want to be botanical about it.
I think he refered to the building choices in a city.It seems like Antosius is the fan of upgrade them all.

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Unread postby ThunderTitan » 26 May 2006, 16:16

Finaly decided to vote HII. Best looking creatures ever. It all went downhill from there.

Oh, and I hate upgrades. The only purpose they serve is to waste money for the extra building. Of course HIV's building choice was annoying when you took over another town and it had a different building.
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Unread postby klaymen » 26 May 2006, 16:27

DaemianLucifer: you know, Antosius thinks that in fight for life the enemies are so...gallant that they stand still, wait until you finish your attack and after it they retaliate....
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Unread postby Justice » 26 May 2006, 19:27

H II is the best... I must admit I laughed when someone here said that HIV was the best one :devil:

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Unread postby Paulus1 » 26 May 2006, 19:31

Justice wrote:H II is the best... I must admit I laughed when someone here said that HIV was the best one :devil:
Well, so far its 11 out of 30 who favors Heroes IV. It seems that it's almost equally distributed between II, III and IV.

I think III and IV are way better than II judged from what I want to play today, but that doesn't mean that I laugh about your opinion.

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Unread postby DungeonMaster » 27 May 2006, 04:46

heroes III only cause its the only one i got

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Unread postby Justice » 27 May 2006, 11:58

Paulus1 wrote:
Justice wrote:H II is the best... I must admit I laughed when someone here said that HIV was the best one :devil:
Well, so far its 11 out of 30 who favors Heroes IV. It seems that it's almost equally distributed between II, III and IV.

I think III and IV are way better than II judged from what I want to play today, but that doesn't mean that I laugh about your opinion.
I didn't laugh at H IV, I laughe at someone who said HIV (letters rather than numbers) :D

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Unread postby Antosius » 29 May 2006, 14:29

@DaemianLucifer

If you think a bit , that "retaliation thing" which was changed in HIV actually destroyed many good tactics which ones you were able to use in H2 and 3.
And about that balancing, HIV was really unballanced or ballanced to much (actually dont know which one is right), but it was to much of it ;)

And maybe you were right about saying that i didnt playd it enought , but i couldnt take it , the graphics made me almost puke...


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