Might and Magic 6, 7, 8 merge based on mm8 engine. [upd. 05.11.2023]

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Re: Might and Magic 6, 7, 8 merge based on mm8 engine. [upd. 12.07.2020]

Unread postby cthscr » 05 Feb 2021, 12:26

joanthedark wrote:Speaking of changing stats, is there a way to lower the recovery time of melee weapons?
https://gitlab.com/cthscr/mmmerge/-/com ... 02c810ec47
There is still a 30 cap for melee and it cannot be modified lower than that value even if you modify the files above (05_MergeSettings.lua & ExtraArtifacts.lua).
Considered as not-tested-properly. Numbers in attack description would still show 30 till upcoming GrayFace's patch (or maybe even with it).

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-- Melee Recovery
local MeleeDelay = Merge and Merge.Settings and Merge.Settings.Attack
		and Merge.Settings.Attack.MinimalMeleeAttackDelay or 30
if MeleeDelay > 127 then MeleeDelay = 127 end

mem.asmpatch(0x406BB9, [[
cmp eax, ]] .. MeleeDelay)
mem.asmpatch(0x406BBE, [[
push ]] .. MeleeDelay)
mem.asmpatch(0x42DA51, [[
push ]] .. MeleeDelay)

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Re: Might and Magic 6, 7, 8 merge based on mm8 engine. [upd. 12.07.2020]

Unread postby cthscr » 05 Feb 2021, 12:28

Godwinson wrote:do you advice to use community master patch alone or together with rodril fixes parch ?
Never together, either former or latter. I'm using 'master' of course.

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Re: Might and Magic 6, 7, 8 merge based on mm8 engine. [upd. 12.07.2020]

Unread postby Godwinson » 06 Feb 2021, 10:39

Are there any FAQ or some other info about Mod"s gameplay ?

P.S. For example I don`t know if it is right to start playing from MM7 , because I have party 40+ in progress in vanilla MM6 it feels strange to play it again.
How to fire NPC or ask them to activate their abilities . Things like that
P.S. How to talk to Golem for Wizard quest ?
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Re: Might and Magic 6, 7, 8 merge based on mm8 engine. [upd. 12.07.2020]

Unread postby Dess » 07 Feb 2021, 21:09

To the bottom right corner is a little icon of a head. If you press that all the hirelings and followers will show up. Including your golem.

Lately its been bothering me more and more that you cannot fly without looking down anymore, since even with mouselook disabled you will slowly descend and eventually land if you angle the camera down. Does anyone know if its possible to reverse it back to how it used to be?

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Re: Might and Magic 6, 7, 8 merge based on mm8 engine. [upd. 12.07.2020]

Unread postby xyllia » 08 Feb 2021, 00:43

Dess wrote:To the bottom right corner is a little icon of a head. If you press that all the hirelings and followers will show up. Including your golem.

Lately its been bothering me more and more that you cannot fly without looking down anymore, since even with mouselook disabled you will slowly descend and eventually land if you angle the camera down. Does anyone know if its possible to reverse it back to how it used to be?
MMOs (WoW and FFXIV) do this too and it *bleeping* drives me nuts.

They automatically assume that EVERYBODY moves with WASD+Mouse in those games, and if you move with the keyboard like you do in MM6/7/8, if your camera is tilted juuuust slightly down and you right-click and drag the mouse one pixel while you are right clicking, your current pitch (the angle at which you fly up or down) is set to your current camera angle and boom. You're slowly falling again until you touch the ground and lift off again.

Drives.
Me.
NUTS.

I don't get why they don't let us turn that the frick off.

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Re: Might and Magic 6, 7, 8 merge based on mm8 engine. [upd. 12.07.2020]

Unread postby Dess » 12 Feb 2021, 11:10

Need a little bit of help here, my ranger just lost all of his weaponskills (21 axe, 7 bow) andinstead have none of them listed at all, I can relearn the skills but they will end up at rank 1. I tried a savegame editor but it crashes every time I try to load the save. If I go back long enough the weaponskills are still there, but that would mean doing the VARN dungeon, going through the land of the giants in MM7 and completeing the telelocator again from start to finish. Ugh...

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Re: Might and Magic 6, 7, 8 merge based on mm8 engine. [upd. 12.07.2020]

Unread postby Nirran » 15 Feb 2021, 05:02

ok i am in mm6 portion of this mod,does it have regenerate expert?

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Re: Might and Magic 6, 7, 8 merge based on mm8 engine. [upd. 12.07.2020]

Unread postby cthscr » 15 Feb 2021, 06:21

Dess wrote:Need a little bit of help here, my ranger just lost all of his weaponskills (21 axe, 7 bow) andinstead have none of them listed at all, I can relearn the skills but they will end up at rank 1. I tried a savegame editor but it crashes every time I try to load the save. If I go back long enough the weaponskills are still there, but that would mean doing the VARN dungeon, going through the land of the giants in MM7 and completeing the telelocator again from start to finish. Ugh...
Ctrl+F1
(implying Ranger is Party[0])

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Party[0].Skills[const.Skills.Axe]=JoinSkill(21, 1)
Party[0].Skills[const.Skills.Bow]=JoinSkill(7, 1)
Change the 1 in JoinSkill into your mastery (2 for Expert, 3 for Master, etc)
MMExtension is your best friend, not any 3rd party tool (which are mostly incompatible with Merge).

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Re: Might and Magic 6, 7, 8 merge based on mm8 engine. [upd. 12.07.2020]

Unread postby Nirran » 15 Feb 2021, 22:19

adding skill trainer location to map is a great feature,tho it doesnt add them to the teacher log

the mm6 gui has the party members cut off on the bottom,it doesnt show the added f5 - f6 spells(added as a feature i read)

can hire multiple hierlings,as of now my party has +50 learning skill from hierlings

great addon

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Re: Might and Magic 6, 7, 8 merge based on mm8 engine. [upd. 12.07.2020]

Unread postby Daedros » 15 Feb 2021, 23:11

Nirran wrote: can hire multiple hierlings,as of now my party has +50 learning skill from hierlings
I have 4 Instructors in my party for +60 Learning skill :D
The only problem with that, is acquiring gold fast enough to keep leveling up. I've been focusing on doing the Monthly Bounty Hunts in the Pit to improve my Reputation there to lower the training cost for all of my chars. I'll save scum the monthly bounty until it's something 8.5k+ Gold, so i'll get +5 Reputation for completing it each month. So i'll train a char a couple levels until it's the next month, save scum the bounty quest for +5 Reputation, then train some levels until the next month again, rinse and repeat.
With Lvl 1 Merchant (Normal) skill, training price discount seems to max out at 65 Reputation. Sell prices max at 80 Reputation then.
With 0 Merchant skill (Monks), training price discount maxes at 70 Reputation. Sell prices max at 85 Reputation then.
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Re: Might and Magic 6, 7, 8 merge based on mm8 engine. [upd. 12.07.2020]

Unread postby Nirran » 16 Feb 2021, 00:42

i edited monster.txt and made the exp/hp/armor constant with lvl of monster(hp is 5x lvl,armor is 1:1 lvl and exp is 15x lvl),also added every monster drops gold(10D10 for a lvl 10 monster,20D10 for lvl 20 etc,can easily make less or more gold drop,open "monster.txt" in txt editer and find replace "D10+L" with "D20+L" for instance if u want 20 size dice for gold,be carefull tho very easy to have too much gold) i can upload it if u want,place it in "DataFiles\" folder

edit : the original monster.txt isnt easy as i said,only the one i edited is
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Re: Might and Magic 6, 7, 8 merge based on mm8 engine. [upd. 12.07.2020]

Unread postby Nirran » 16 Feb 2021, 02:30

february cannot get intell from the shrine in Misty Islands,also the nicolia quest,circus isnt in bootleg bay(these two related?)

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Re: Might and Magic 6, 7, 8 merge based on mm8 engine. [upd. 12.07.2020]

Unread postby Daedros » 16 Feb 2021, 06:55

The "Wait Until Dawn" option should wait until 6:00 AM, not 5:00 AM. Most shops open at 6:00 AM.
There should be a "Wait Until Dusk" option as well, that'd wait until 6:00 PM. Certain shops (The Pit, Deyja, Nighon) only open at 6:00 PM. Shadowspire should be added to that Dusk list.

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Re: Might and Magic 6, 7, 8 merge based on mm8 engine. [upd. 12.07.2020]

Unread postby cthscr » 16 Feb 2021, 07:07

Dawn is 5:00 AM. Period. (It is hardcoded everywhere in exe AND used in various calculations.)

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Re: Might and Magic 6, 7, 8 merge based on mm8 engine. [upd. 12.07.2020]

Unread postby Nirran » 16 Feb 2021, 16:34

Nirran wrote:february cannot get intell from the shrine in Misty Islands,also the nicolia quest,circus isnt in bootleg bay(these two related?)
read that if u talk to seer it "activates" it,tried it and it worked,so false bug :)

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Re: Might and Magic 6, 7, 8 merge based on mm8 engine. [upd. 12.07.2020]

Unread postby Nirran » 16 Feb 2021, 17:02

stuck,need the 'discharge papers' from warlord dung,did ti twice,no scroll and seer doesnt give it,how do i create an item with mmex"?

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Re: Might and Magic 6, 7, 8 merge based on mm8 engine. [upd. 12.07.2020]

Unread postby Phobos » 16 Feb 2021, 18:37

Nirran wrote:stuck,need the 'discharge papers' from warlord dung,did ti twice,no scroll and seer doesnt give it,how do i create an item with mmex"?
Did you check the right place? https://user.xmission.com/~tnelson/mm6/ ... tress.html

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Re: Might and Magic 6, 7, 8 merge based on mm8 engine. [upd. 12.07.2020]

Unread postby Nirran » 16 Feb 2021, 19:55

Phobos wrote:
Nirran wrote:stuck,need the 'discharge papers' from warlord dung,did ti twice,no scroll and seer doesnt give it,how do i create an item with mmex"?
Did you check the right place? https://user.xmission.com/~tnelson/mm6/ ... tress.html
yep,.went back and verified,maybe cause the quest isnt shown in quest list,tho i was able to complete other quests that werent in the log

edit: cheated it in,non issue now
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Re: Might and Magic 6, 7, 8 merge based on mm8 engine. [upd. 12.07.2020]

Unread postby xyllia » 17 Feb 2021, 17:13

Daedros wrote:The "Wait Until Dawn" option should wait until 6:00 AM, not 5:00 AM. Most shops open at 6:00 AM.
There should be a "Wait Until Dusk" option as well, that'd wait until 6:00 PM. Certain shops (The Pit, Deyja, Nighon) only open at 6:00 PM. Shadowspire should be added to that Dusk list.
That's the way it was in the original games too.

Kinda dumb that they made it that way. If anything I'd say that the stores ought to be changed so they open at 5AM if you were looking to make improvements, but it's such a silly little thing, just simply click the 1hr button, boom, done.

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Re: Might and Magic 6, 7, 8 merge based on mm8 engine. [upd. 12.07.2020]

Unread postby Daedros » 17 Feb 2021, 22:52

xyllia wrote:
Daedros wrote:The "Wait Until Dawn" option should wait until 6:00 AM, not 5:00 AM. Most shops open at 6:00 AM.
There should be a "Wait Until Dusk" option as well, that'd wait until 6:00 PM. Certain shops (The Pit, Deyja, Nighon) only open at 6:00 PM. Shadowspire should be added to that Dusk list.
That's the way it was in the original games too.

Kinda dumb that they made it that way. If anything I'd say that the stores ought to be changed so they open at 5AM if you were looking to make improvements, but it's such a silly little thing, just simply click the 1hr button, boom, done.
Yeah. What's annoying, is when it doesn't even stop at the correct time. Sometimes i'll "Wait Until Dawn", it's 5AM, then "Wait One Hour", and it's 5:57 AM, and then have to "Wait 5 Minutes" as well.
There being no "Wait Until Dusk" is a pain too, especially when training at the Pit/Nighon. Those training centers open at 6PM, yet when you train a level and exit the building (such as to check the date), it's 6AM. If you want to re-enter the building to train more, you have to hit "Wait One Hour" twelve times until it's 6PM.
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