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I do not have the IDE drive jumpered at this time. The SATA drive is actually 120GIG.
The problem now, is that I do not have the system key to enter!
I gave the PC to a friend, to try and fix it, a few month back and he never returned the CD case, which had the system key on the back of it. I just emailed him to look for it again. Are there any other options? Can I email, or call Microsoft to get a code?
(weird, he just emailed the code, as I am typing...)
Also,
Can I changed the cable and jumper after the Windows install, without any problems; or should I even bother?
The problem now, is that I do not have the system key to enter!
I gave the PC to a friend, to try and fix it, a few month back and he never returned the CD case, which had the system key on the back of it. I just emailed him to look for it again. Are there any other options? Can I email, or call Microsoft to get a code?
(weird, he just emailed the code, as I am typing...)
Also,
Can I changed the cable and jumper after the Windows install, without any problems; or should I even bother?
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Why? The main reason why I want a new OS eventually, is to keep up with current programs (read: games), and also to enable the use of more RAM. As you know, 2GB is maximum with XP.
The thing is, though - I'd like to keep upgrading my old PC instead of buying a new one. It's fun.
The thing is, though - I'd like to keep upgrading my old PC instead of buying a new one. It's fun.
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@GreatEmerald
The Documents aren't problem the programs are.
@Variol
If it's working after install never change it.
@Kalah
Every minute..
If you want over 4GB barrier then you need 64bits OS. And that's probably advisable.
But need to say that there are less troubles with 32bits OSes due to better drivers (graphic card and sound sometimes and some 3rd party framework libraries). Also if you will buy upgrade W7Pro/Pre instead of one medium you will receive both and can choose freely what you will install. Both 32&64bits Windows are included. With OEM you will get only one version. Still the code will be valid for both bits variations.
>>GreatEmerald wrote:That kinda defeats the whole purpose of getting it in the first place.Pol wrote:32bits to 32bits only.
If you want 64bits from 32bits DIY* manually!You can install Windows from Windows when keeping your documents intact and also most of programs. 32bits to 32bits only.
The Documents aren't problem the programs are.
@Variol
If it's working after install never change it.
It's kinda old for today web browsing and writing docs. But it's usable. As a second option, could be used - if needed. Optimized.It would still be a great PC for any kid, doing school stuff, or web searching etc.
@Kalah
I envy the amount of your free time K.The thing is, though - I'd like to keep upgrading my old PC instead of buying a new one. It's fun.
Every minute..
Let me to correct your statement, they say picture is worthy of thousands words:Why? The main reason why I want a new OS eventually, is to keep up with current programs (read: games), and also to enable the use of more RAM. As you know, 2GB is maximum with XP.
If you want over 4GB barrier then you need 64bits OS. And that's probably advisable.
But need to say that there are less troubles with 32bits OSes due to better drivers (graphic card and sound sometimes and some 3rd party framework libraries). Also if you will buy upgrade W7Pro/Pre instead of one medium you will receive both and can choose freely what you will install. Both 32&64bits Windows are included. With OEM you will get only one version. Still the code will be valid for both bits variations.
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I reeeeealy appreciate the assistance Pol!!
I notice that the SATA drive is not recognized. Would this be due to the IDE cable, connector 2 and/or lack of jumper on the IDE HDD? I have connector 1 plugged in right now. After the "72" updates, which are currently running (just finished) I can change the cable and put the jumper back.
I notice that the SATA drive is not recognized. Would this be due to the IDE cable, connector 2 and/or lack of jumper on the IDE HDD? I have connector 1 plugged in right now. After the "72" updates, which are currently running (just finished) I can change the cable and put the jumper back.
In pure theory IDE/SATA interfaces shouldn't interfere but you may try it.
However before, try to look under "Control Panel>Administrative Tools>Computer Management>Storage>Disk Management" and see if you can initialize and format the invisible drive.
You don't need to do that if you don't see the drive physically listed in "Device Manager".
But you should ensure that the SATA controller is enabled in bios. It may not be so, you will for sure see it in the manual - in the one of the last pages which I listed.
However before, try to look under "Control Panel>Administrative Tools>Computer Management>Storage>Disk Management" and see if you can initialize and format the invisible drive.
You don't need to do that if you don't see the drive physically listed in "Device Manager".
But you should ensure that the SATA controller is enabled in bios. It may not be so, you will for sure see it in the manual - in the one of the last pages which I listed.
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Probably under "Advanced Settings" there should be setting: "Sata Controller: Enabled."Variol wrote:It does not show the SATA drive at all. I will check the manual, because I could not find where to enable it in the CMOS...
CMOS looks fine, but not exactly like the manual shows?? Still not seeing it.
You don't need to look for it, if you see the disk in the bios, if not - check out that one.
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Nope. You're mixing something up:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library ... 85%29.aspx
The limit is 4 GB on 32bit, 128GB on 64bit.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library ... 85%29.aspx
The limit is 4 GB on 32bit, 128GB on 64bit.
doh!
I just found a disc in my MB box. There was a utility on there for the SATA driver. I ran it and it looks like it is seeing it now. It does see it as a SCSI device though. Does that matter?
I just found a disc in my MB box. There was a utility on there for the SATA driver. I ran it and it looks like it is seeing it now. It does see it as a SCSI device though. Does that matter?
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@Kalah
2GB is limit per individual application not per system. And you can overcome it in some cases. So the only limit which matters for you is 4GB border line.
BIOS (or CMOS how you're calling. But it's only memory where bios data are stored.)"Advanced Settings"
Are you referring to Windows or CMOS here?
No! It may be overlay driver. Just a few boards need it. Everything is fine!Variol wrote:doh!
I just found a disc in my MB box. There was a utility on there for the SATA driver. I ran it and it looks like it is seeing it now. It does see it as a SCSI device though. Does that matter?
@Kalah
Put it here, ti will be used!Huh, so I can put that last 1GB in, to get me 3GB? I guess this is what confused me.
2GB is limit per individual application not per system. And you can overcome it in some cases. So the only limit which matters for you is 4GB border line.
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About the HDD, I am now thinking about buying an external drive instead ...
An internal drive is better since it means less cables and stuff on the outside, but I imagine that an external drive could be less hassle when getting it to work.
I just fear that I might buy the internal drive, and then there's lots of work trying to install it ... whereas an external drive is just plug-and-play.
An internal drive is better since it means less cables and stuff on the outside, but I imagine that an external drive could be less hassle when getting it to work.
I just fear that I might buy the internal drive, and then there's lots of work trying to install it ... whereas an external drive is just plug-and-play.
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If it is for system buy internal. If it is for data/media get external. The external drive is much more slower, limited by usb interface. You also cannot install easily system on it. Generally speaking the internal drive is much less hassles in long time view but simply not meant to be portable.Kalah wrote:About the HDD, I am now thinking about buying an external drive instead ...
An internal drive is better since it means less cables and stuff on the outside, but I imagine that an external drive could be less hassle when getting it to work.
I just fear that I might buy the internal drive, and then there's lots of work trying to install it ... whereas an external drive is just plug-and-play.
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