Has anyone beaten 'THUNK'?

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Unread postby theLuckyDragon » 11 Feb 2006, 15:24

I didn't find them on MapHaven. But how are they, compared to the WoG version? Not as complex, I presume?

edit: No, wait, I did find them. But they're for The Price of Loyalty and I don't have it.

P.S. I started with Last Hope again. I got rid of Red and somehow incapacitated Orange (the Thieve's Guild kept showing that he had no hero), but after that Green overwhelmed me. Darn. I guess you-- I mean Corribus :) won't be regaining his kingdom anytime soon on my computer!
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Unread postby Corribus » 11 Feb 2006, 15:47

theLuckyDragon wrote:I didn't find them on MapHaven. But how are they, compared to the WoG version? Not as complex, I presume?
Obviously, the H2 editor was much less complex (although, that wasn't necessarily a bad thing all the time) than the H3 editor. Plus the H3 version was made with WoG so we (and by we, I mean Fnord, who actually did all the scripting) were able to do much more esoteric stuff than if we had just had the H3 editor alone. Therefore you'll find that the H3 versions of the map(s) have much more story development (although the core story is still the same) and also many more quests.

That being said, while we have tried to preserve the difficulty of the maps in the H3 version (particularly of THUNK), I still think the H2 maps are superior as far as plain-old battle maps are concerned. Of course that might just be because you don't have all the story text to distract you. (Also as you know the H2 and H3 AIs are very different, so the maps also play very differently, despite both of them being fairly difficult).
edit: No, wait, I did find them. But they're for The Price of Loyalty and I don't have it.
Ah... that was the first expansion, right? Hm, I made about 23 H2 maps... I don't know how many of them required the various expansions, though.
P.S. I started with Last Hope again. I got rid of Red and somehow incapacitated Orange (the Thieve's Guild kept showing that he had no hero), but after that Green overwhelmed me. Darn. I guess you-- I mean Corribus :) won't be regaining his kingdom anytime soon on my computer!
That's ok - I'll live. :D
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Unread postby Justice » 05 Mar 2006, 19:24

Corribus wrote:I've beaten it. :D

Here is the entire campaign, if you're interested:

Last Hope
THUNK
Adjudication
Toran Rift
Cave of Dreams
Retribution
Abode of Evil

The H3 WoG version is in the works, but we're only up to map 5.
Never knew of those after THUNK 8| I'll try to find them right now... that damnable essay for tomorrow can wait, well perhaps not... but I just loved those two, I have finished them about 7 times each :proud:

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Unread postby Justice » 05 Mar 2006, 19:30

eh... were can i find that maphaven :baby:

I've been praying for maps for H2 but never thought of the internet.- Quite stupid aye :D

Just founs celestial by a coincident and don't remember how I found HoMM community :S

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Unread postby theLuckyDragon » 05 Mar 2006, 19:41

You can find MapHaven at:

http://heroes.mycomport.com

And welcome to the Round Table! :)
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Unread postby Justice » 05 Mar 2006, 19:53

Thanks for the link and the welcome ;)

Most likely noone will se me the next days but after that i'll most likely return here again :D

Blinking smileys :creative:

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Unread postby Corribus » 05 Mar 2006, 20:13

You can find hundreds of great H2 maps at MapHaven. If you need any other recommendations for good options, you can find them here.
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Unread postby Justice » 26 Jun 2006, 16:43

Finally managed to beat that abode of evil B-) done all now :D

Great campaign and storyline! Far better than any of the original campaigns.- And a lot harder :D most of them, exceot one, I managed to beat in first attempt, but abode of evil has had me trying for ages :tired: think it must have een the seventh time now that I got it ;|

Thanks for a great campaign :-D


Uh, and sory for practicing mine skills as a necromancer :D just no need to start a new thread...

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Unread postby AngelEyes » 13 Jun 2009, 18:01

Ahh, I just stumbled upon this thread. Is the link for Map Haven permanently down? Or is there some alternate location to download these excellent maps?

Corribus - truly outstanding work. I've thoroughly enjoyed playing through the first few maps of this campaign!

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Unread postby Corlagon » 14 Jun 2009, 15:48

I lost both Cave of Dreams and Retribution for Heroes II, and can't find either anywhere on the internet. Pity such great maps are rotting away into obscurity. Does anyone have them? With those last two, I could archive the campaign somewhere to prevent any chances they might be lost permanently.

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Unread postby Corribus » 18 Jul 2009, 23:02

I have them, so if anyone still wants them (I know this thread's now over a month old), I can provide them.
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Unread postby Vlaad II » 19 Jul 2009, 18:24

Here they are.

Also here's 150 MB of other H2-H4 maps, probably from MapHaven. The link is temporary.
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Unread postby AngelEyes » 20 Jul 2009, 22:40

Many thanks, Vlad! B-)

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Unread postby Corlagon » 05 Aug 2009, 21:29

Laughably, I just noticed this. Ten thousand thanks, Vlaad! :hail:

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Unread postby cjlee » 06 Aug 2010, 13:55

I'm playing Thunk now, more than 10 years after I first saw it and was intimidated by that nasty barbarian.

It's the third month and I'm surviving!

Suspecting that something was wrong, I used the cheat code and found... the Thunk stuck at a spot between the Sword of Anduran (behind a barrier) and a signpost.

No wonder I'm alive still! Darn, I was beginning to think I am a good player!

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Unread postby Darmani » 28 Aug 2010, 05:10

Corribus wrote:Corribus does not need to wait on the island for his sister to rescue him....I believe I eventually fixed this exploit in a later version of the map
I'm a few weeks into a game of THUNK right now. I'm really enjoying it.

Anyway, is this really unintentional? I find this quite surprising, considering that I believe there's only one way to split Corribus's starting troops and beat the peasants losslessly, and that configuration just happens to be the starting one.

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Unread postby Anduran's Army » 13 May 2011, 23:07

Here's how I killed THUNK: capture all of Red's towns and castles. Then when the other colors threaten to take them back, just let them have them. If you're lucky, Red won't take one of his ally's castles. If a week goes by and Red doesn't have a town or castle, his heroes abandon him, and THUNK disappears.

When I started the scenario, I moved Corribus quickly off the island, defeating archmagi and power liches and moving west. I captured the Barbarian town at the end of the grassy peninsula, upgraded to a castle, built the shipyard and sailed home to castle Holbark.

I'm playing the scenario right now and Corribus is almost THUNK-esque. My attack skill is 33 and defense skill is 28. Another helpful hint when playing this scenario: keep an eye out for heroes available to recruit. If one of them has a weird name used in this scenario, they may have artifacts. Recruit them and give their best artifacts to Corribus. I got the Sword of Anduran this way.


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