Which upgrade system is your favourite?

Metathron · Unread postby **Metathron** » 08 Jun 2008, 11:17

Mine is definitely the HoMM IV system, I love having to choose.

HoMM V: TotE is close behind.

Akul · Unread postby **Akul** » 08 Jun 2008, 11:57

HoMM5TotE, with H2 on 2nd place and H4 on 3rd place. I don't like the fact that there are only buyable creatures (H1) and all creatures having only one upgrade is booring (H3).

UndeadHalfOrc · Unread postby **UndeadHalfOrc** » 08 Jun 2008, 12:48

Heroes 2, although I prefer paying NO PENALTY (like in H3) when upgrading my old units after the upg dwelling is built.

darknessfood · Unread postby **darknessfood** » 08 Jun 2008, 12:59

Heroes V, goes more deeply and that way you can get a more diverse army...

BrennusWhiskey · Unread postby **BrennusWhiskey** » 08 Jun 2008, 14:17

H4, freedom to choose is the best!

Metathron · Unread postby **Metathron** » 08 Jun 2008, 14:23

darknessfood wrote:Heroes V, goes more deeply and that way you can get a more diverse army...

You mean HoMM V: TotE, right?

BrennusWhiskey wrote:H4, freedom to choose is the best!

I think freedom to choose would best describe HoMM V: TotE, since after you've chosen a dwelling in HoMM IV, there's no going back.

Darmani · Unread postby **Darmani** » 08 Jun 2008, 14:23

Heroes II -- it helps add to faction diversity. Unlike UHO, however, I think removing the penalty on upgrading already purchased creatures was one of the worst decisions ever made -- I like having to choose whether to buy something now or wait until I build the upgraded structure.

Second favorite in the HoMM IV system. It adds strategy. You have to have some vague notion of how your choice will help you down the road, and must make tradeoffs.

I would like the TotE system if there was no option to retrain.

The HoMM III system is extremely boring -- I find it even more boring than the H1 system!

Metathron · Unread postby **Metathron** » 08 Jun 2008, 14:27

darmani wrote:I would like the TotE system if there was no option to retrain.

Me too, actually, if only because the way it is now often makes it too easy.

MistWeaver · Unread postby **MistWeaver** » 08 Jun 2008, 14:31

I like H4 system. No upgrades for units but dwelling selection instead. This makes units look more all-sufficient.

H2 system comes second.

H5 - is most stupid and unrealistic. Especially in Tote. Making boys from girls or transforming creatures into really different ones is meh..

UndeadHalfOrc · Unread postby **UndeadHalfOrc** » 08 Jun 2008, 15:19

MistWeaver wrote:
H5 - . Making boys from girls

To be fair though, H3 did this first ... Genies ==> Master Genies

Metathron · Unread postby **Metathron** » 08 Jun 2008, 15:49

MistWeaver wrote:Making boys from girls or transforming creatures into really different ones is meh..

That first part is just nitpicking, it may not make sense or the developers may just be really sexist, but in the end, why should you be bothered by something so insignificant?

Which creatures are transformed into really different ones? Off the top of my head, I can think of zero examples.

Darmani · Unread postby **Darmani** » 08 Jun 2008, 16:46

UndeadHalfOrc wrote:
MistWeaver wrote:
H5 - . Making boys from girls
To be fair though, H3 did this first ... Genies ==> Master Genies

Nah, genies are genderless and can change their appearance at will. They just don't want you ordering them to their deaths when they don't have Master training, so they change appearance to reflect their toughness.

BrennusWhiskey · Unread postby **BrennusWhiskey** » 08 Jun 2008, 16:58

quote:
"BrennusWhiskey wrote:
H4, freedom to choose is the best!

I think freedom to choose would best describe HoMM V: TotE, since after you've chosen a dwelling in HoMM IV, there's no going back."

In my opinion upgrading units with few free options and possibility back to basic form is stupid.

Metathron · Unread postby **Metathron** » 08 Jun 2008, 17:08

Well, you may think it's stupid, but it still offers the most freedom.

And have you actually played TotE? There's no going back to "basic form", only re-upgrading to the alternative upgrade for a small price.

HodgePodge · Unread postby **HodgePodge** » 08 Jun 2008, 17:49

Voted: Heroes 4 Upgrade System but Heroes 3 was a close second. At first, when H4 was released, I loathed having to choose between two different creatures but now I really like it, so much so that I voted for it.

UndeadHalfOrc wrote:
MistWeaver wrote:H5 - . Making boys from girls
To be fair though, H3 did this first ... Genies ==> Master Genies

Methinks this was just an oversight by New World Computing.

darknessfood · Unread postby **darknessfood** » 08 Jun 2008, 21:57

@ Methatron: Yup, i meant that!

BrennusWhiskey · Unread postby **BrennusWhiskey** » 09 Jun 2008, 06:21

Metathron wrote:Well, you may think it's stupid, but it still offers the most freedom.

And have you actually played TotE? There's no going back to "basic form", only re-upgrading to the alternative upgrade for a small price.

You catch me

I just love H4.
I tried TOTE but is borring. All things are worst.

ThunderTitan · Unread postby **ThunderTitan** » 09 Jun 2008, 08:54

H4's is the one i liked best... but preferably with some option to replace them for some cash... as it was way annoying to capture a town with the opposite building in it...

Metathron · Unread postby **Metathron** » 09 Jun 2008, 09:13

ThunderTitan wrote:H4's is the one i liked best... but preferably with some option to replace them for some cash

So, um, that would basically be the TotE system!

darknessfood · Unread postby **darknessfood** » 09 Jun 2008, 09:33

ThunderTitan wrote:H4's is the one i liked best... but preferably with some option to replace them for some cash... as it was way annoying to capture a town with the opposite building in it...

Yeah, that was the thing i hated. Most of the time when you captured a town, you have to choose which tier of monster you want, and that messes up your tactics...

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