HoMM II: Best level 5 creature

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In my opinion, the best level 5 creature is:

Champion
8
18%
War Troll
4
9%
Unicorn
5
11%
Hydra
4
9%
Archmage
16
36%
Power Lich
8
18%
 
Total votes: 45

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Postby ThunderTitan » Nov 3 2007, 23:24

Power Lich, because i've always liked the name... :devil:
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Postby asandir » Nov 3 2007, 23:47

archmage for me, so ahhh, is anyone even gonna bother to do the level 6's? :D
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Postby Metathron » Nov 4 2007, 0:18

Hold yer horses, boyo, the level 5 poll has just popped out of the oven a day and a half ago.

I will do the level 6 poll next week, and no, I for one will not be voting for either the black dragons or the titans, if that's what you were implying you naughty thing you.

ThunderTitan wrote:Power Lich, because i've always liked the name... :devil:


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Postby UndeadHalfOrc » Nov 4 2007, 1:51

Metathron wrote:Well, that was just so completely unbelievable to me that I had to go ahead and test it with a wizard with 22 Archmages sieging a wizard's town. And guess what - the arrow was BROKEN and the damage halved, so obviously you are confusing this with HoMM III.


Tested again. You are right, I was wrong. Apologies.

You know, it's embarassing enough that I sounded so sure of myself in my post. But what's worse is that I did test it a hundred times this summer in H2 and H3, with/without artifacts, with/without Archery, and to show for it I ended up remembering it WRONG. Stupid defective organic memory. :)

The documentation error I was really meaning to correct was H3's manual saying un-upgraded mages couldn't penetrate walls - they can. But yeah, neither can in H2.

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Postby Metathron » Nov 4 2007, 3:18

Hey, mistakes happen, there is really no need to apologize.

You're a marvelous contributor to these boards, UHC. Dedicated HoMM players like yourself are always good to find. :)
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Postby AngelEyes » Nov 4 2007, 5:00

Went with War Trolls. I like their ranged ability and they're particularly nasty led by their native Barbarian hero.

Honourable mention goes to the Champions due to their superior speed.

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Postby asandir » Nov 5 2007, 4:22

Hold yer horses, boyo, the level 5 poll has just popped out of the oven a day and a half ago.

I will do the level 6 poll next week, and no, I for one will not be voting for either the black dragons or the titans, if that's what you were implying you naughty thing you.


not jumping the gun, just pretty sure of what the result will be, let's remember we are talking BEST UNIT, not favourite etc
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Postby Darmani » Nov 5 2007, 12:56

asandir wrote:
Hold yer horses, boyo, the level 5 poll has just popped out of the oven a day and a half ago.

I will do the level 6 poll next week, and no, I for one will not be voting for either the black dragons or the titans, if that's what you were implying you naughty thing you.


not jumping the gun, just pretty sure of what the result will be, let's remember we are talking BEST UNIT, not favourite etc


Tier 6 is really three tiers, and price is always a factor. So yeah, you're jumping the gun.

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Postby UndeadHalfOrc » Nov 5 2007, 14:37

Metathron, thanks for your kind comments.

So, did you try my personal H3 balance patch yet?
I also have one made for H2:PoL and H1 (Win95 version)

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Postby Corribus » Nov 5 2007, 17:47

A tough one. I like the Archmages, because I like shooters, but I think Champions edge them out. They are REALLY cheap, come in great numbers, have fairly good statas and, most importantly, they are the fastest unit in the game (well, tied with phoenix), which means you always get the first turn in battle. Invaluable in H2 because that means you also get the first spell-cast. Champions + mass haste/slow = deadly.
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Postby asandir » Nov 6 2007, 1:51

Darmani wrote:
asandir wrote:
Hold yer horses, boyo, the level 5 poll has just popped out of the oven a day and a half ago.

I will do the level 6 poll next week, and no, I for one will not be voting for either the black dragons or the titans, if that's what you were implying you naughty thing you.


not jumping the gun, just pretty sure of what the result will be, let's remember we are talking BEST UNIT, not favourite etc


Tier 6 is really three tiers, and price is always a factor. So yeah, you're jumping the gun.


I disagree, but let's see ;)
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Postby UndeadHalfOrc » Sep 20 2009, 20:38

It's interesting how the mage and lich from HOMM2 went to level 4 and 5 units respectively in HOMM3, while almost conserving the same statistics.

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Postby ByteBandit » Sep 21 2009, 1:00

For me, I like the Champions. Low cost, good defense and quick. My number one unit.

For number 2, I like the Hydra. excellent defense stats and great Castle defenders.

For number 3, Unicorn. Good fast unit for both army and castle defense. But cost a bit more.

For number 4, I like the Troll. Regeneration comes in handy for tight battles.

For number 5, gotta go with Arch Mages. Best of the two shooters in this class.

And last are the Liches. They are the first units AI goes after and they die too easily, and yeah, they kill your own units when they shoot. Not good.

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Postby Bandobras Took » Sep 23 2009, 17:22

Archmagi have always seemed to fragile to me because of the AI's obsession with targeting ranged Units. Went with Unicorn.
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Postby Coldy » Oct 12 2009, 19:18

Power Lich in my opinion. I love the splash damage, especially when the AI places one of his units to guard his archers. :p


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