Elf Archer evolution

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Pick your favorite Elf bowman.

Heroes 1 Elf
1
1%
Heroes 2 Elf
2
2%
Heroes 2 Grand Elf
20
22%
Heroes 3 Wood Elf
10
11%
Heroes 3 Grand Elf
28
31%
Heroes 4 Elf
7
8%
Heroes 5 Hunter
9
10%
Heroes 5 Master Hunter
14
15%
 
Total votes: 91

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Elf Archer evolution

Postby UndeadHalfOrc » Sep 9 2007, 21:55

Believe it or not, no one had done that yet!
But elves have been in EVERY SINGLE HoMM GAME EVER MADE, even King's Bounty!

I didn't include the H5 2nd expansion upgrade, because I couldn't find any pictures.
I couldn't find pictures of the old Elf unit in King's Bounty either. :(

H1 Elf
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H2 Elf
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H2 Grand Elf
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H3 Wood Elf (this lazy fella DIDN'T shoot twice...)
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H3 Grand Elf
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H4 Elf
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H5 Hunter
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H5 Master Hunter
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Postby Elvin » Sep 9 2007, 22:04

I think I'll go for H5 hunter with second in line the H3 one. Now if they didn't have those silly ears..
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Postby HodgePodge » Sep 9 2007, 22:09

Voted Heroes III Grand Elf

Even though I like the way the Heroes III Wood Elf looks more. But since the Grand Elves shoot twice, they got my vote.

I would have voted for the Heroes V Elves too, except for their 'donkey' ears. ;|

I think the pics below are a better representation of Heroes IV's Elves.

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Re: Elf Archer evolution

Postby UndeadHalfOrc » Sep 9 2007, 22:39

UndeadHalfOrc wrote:Image


Hey! Look! IT'S ORLANDO BLOOM! :D :devil:

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Postby Metathron » Sep 9 2007, 23:07

HodgePodge wrote:I would have voted for the Heroes V Elves too, except for their 'donkey' ears. ;|


UndeadHalfOrc wrote:Hey! Look! IT'S ORLANDO BLOOM! smile_teeth devil


Hehe!

It's a tough choice, but I went with the HoMM 2 grand elves.

The HoMM 4 elves look better in those pics HodgePodge posted than up close in the artwork depiction, and that goes for all HoMM 4 creatures actually.
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Postby Darmani » Sep 9 2007, 23:28

Something about the H3 elves just makes me want to rip out my eyeballs. Maybe it's that they look to human? Maybe it's that they sort of pop out of the screen in their pre-rendered glory yet have such a glaring lack of detail? Whatever it is, I hate it yet I can't place it.

Some of the same is true for the H1 elf, to a lesser extent, and for the H5 hunter, to a much lesser extent. The H5 Master Hunter doesn't have the oddness that makes me want to rip out my eyeballs, but it still looks horrible for other reasons (the blue is a big part of that, as is the skirt). The H4 elves look, like most of the H4 creatures, plastic and washed-out. Their animation and sound is good, however.

That leaves the H2 elves, which are the only ones that don't immediately and strongly repel me. Of those, I picked the grand elf. I guess the non-green torso makes it easier on the eye.

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Postby HodgePodge » Sep 10 2007, 1:26

Darmani wrote:… That leaves the H2 elves, which are the only ones that don't immediately and strongly repel me. Of those, I picked the grand elf. I guess the non-green torso makes it easier on the eye.

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being GREEN,
ya' know.

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Anyhow, please don't rip out your eyeballs, as it would be pretty hard to play Heroes if you did. :-D

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Re: Elf Archer evolution

Postby Avonu » Sep 10 2007, 10:06

UndeadHalfOrc wrote:I didn't include the H5 2nd expansion upgrade, because I couldn't find any pictures.
I couldn't find pictures of the old Elf unit in King's Bounty either. :(


Here you go:

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King's Bounty

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H3 Wood Elf

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H3 Beta Grand Elf

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Postby Elvin » Sep 10 2007, 10:37

Thanks for the beta grand elf :) The final one looks better but I always like taking a look to previous designs.
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Postby asandir » Sep 11 2007, 3:49

I really like the H2 Grand Elf, elegant and simple
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Postby PhoenixReborn » Sep 11 2007, 4:10

What is the difference between the heroes 2 elf and grand elf?

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Postby asandir » Sep 11 2007, 5:09

well apart from the fact the elf has a single red feather and the Grand Elf has two blue ones there is this comparison:

Elf
HP 15
Damage 2-3
Attack 4
Defense 3
Speed Average
Cost 250 gold

Grand Elf
HP 15
Damage 2-3
Attack 5
Defense 5
Speed Very Fast
Cost 300 gold

both have two attacks
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Postby ThunderTitan » Sep 11 2007, 10:59

asandir wrote:well apart from the fact the elf has a single red feather and the Grand Elf has two blue ones there is this comparison:


You forgot about the +2 chainmail armor the grand elf gets for better protection.
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Postby theLuckyDragon » Sep 11 2007, 11:07

The H4 Elf is the only female elf from the lot. This is easier to see in the high-res version in the first post.
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Postby ThunderTitan » Sep 11 2007, 11:39

The only reason i ever doubted she was female was because it's an Elf...
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Postby Swordmaster » Sep 11 2007, 11:55

asandir wrote:I really like the H2 Grand Elf, elegant and simple


I agree. H2 Grand Elf got my vote.

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Postby Yurian Stonebow » Sep 16 2007, 16:23

Definately Heroes III Grand Elf.

These Noble Elves are quite nice, balanced for an archer unit of level 3, shoot twice and wear one fine piece of elite unit's uniform. (although the outfit it isn't good for hiding in the woods.) Perhaps Rampart's most distinctive troops.






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Postby Ohma » Sep 17 2007, 15:10

H2 Upgd. Elf, and geez, I keep forgetting how bad most of the creatures in 4 looked, ick.
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Postby PhoenixReborn » Sep 17 2007, 15:27

I meant what is the difference visually?

Why does the regular elf have 0 votes but the grand elf has many?

The only difference is two feathers to one? And maybe some chainmail protection :D

I think between those two people are picking the stronger creature.

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Postby HodgePodge » Sep 17 2007, 16:46

PhoenixReborn wrote:I meant what is the difference visually?

… I think between those two people are picking the stronger creature.

Well for the Heroes III Elf/Grand Elf, I have to admit I like the green clothing and general look of the regular Elf better than the Grand Elf with chainmail. But the difference between having one shot or two makes the Grand Elf much more of a favorite Elf overall. So for me, taking every aspect into consideration affected my decision.
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