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Re: Tech Corner

Postby mr.hackcrag » Feb 13 2017, 4:40

These RX480 are getting pretty cheap; lowest is $180 with rebate. 8|

http://www.microcenter.com/search/searc ... tore=false

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Re: Tech Corner

Postby Pol » Feb 13 2017, 10:34

Whee, if I could say the same in my country. :(

Definitively possible, there's some ongoing price competition with nVidia GTX1060 and also there will be a new line with more performance, called Vega, shipped in second quartal.
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Re: Tech Corner

Postby Pol » Feb 15 2017, 21:55

Playing with Hyper-V to get back Win7, with all comfort and in the same time keeping Win 10. I really need some old app usable again, yes, they worked under Win10 but stopped after some updates. There will be only more to follow :(

Zen from AMD is coming and later nVidia will get some serious competition for GTX1070 & GTX1080. That's only good. For players. Monopoly means that they can, and indeed did, dictate the price.
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Re: Tech Corner

Postby Pol » Feb 26 2017, 0:38

AMD CPU Zen will be first available from the March, the APU version will come on the end of the second quartal - that will be for OEM, so in shops probably in third quartal.

Considering bigger performance leap (against current Kaver and Godavari, which can also play Heroes 7) it can be good choice for playing Heroes 7 and using its editor - comfortably. Of course not only that, the idea is that APU should cover "casual gamers" needs, so it should be able to play many games at reasonabe pace. I'm very curious if it will. If it will, then it will eliminate need for such things like GTX 210-240 or GTX940 or HD5350-5570 and similar really low performance "accelerators".
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-how-amds-ryzen-will-disrupt-the-cpu-market

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This is one of the biggest step in the history. So far there wasn't so powerfull APU. And price's like half of Intel, if Intel would have so good APU - doesn't, not even now. No counting overpriced Larrabee, which alltogehter was a fail from Intel side. There are also going rumors that Intel signed a contract with AMD, to create Intel CPU + AMD graphic chip sheated in one case.
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Re: Tech Corner

Postby mr.hackcrag » Feb 28 2017, 5:39

Here are prices: http://www.microcenter.com/site/content/amdryzen.aspx

Too bad that there are no games being released any time soon that I'm interested in that would warrant upgrade of CPU and GPU. :(
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Re: Tech Corner

Postby Pol » Mar 2 2017, 20:53

AMD GPU Polaris II. (the second revision) is coming, now under line RX500. Expected arrival - April 2017. As the previous GPU from AMD this is middle range - around GTX1050 and GTX1060 from nVidia.

Gaming line will be called Vega and is to be expected during second quartal 2017. To compete with nVidia GTX1070 and GTX1080.

Both Polaris revisions will coexist on the market for some time, here they are sorted by expected performance.

See the line:

RX 550 >> RX460(energy savvy) >> RX560 (energy savvy) >> RX470 >> GTX1060 (3GB) >> RX470D (China only) >> GTX1060 (6GB) >> RX570 >> RX480

*nVidia performance is estimated

And of course AMD CPU Zen is coming today!

Zen is the line >> Ryzen is the CPU

It reminds me T-Mobile haiku :D

Ryzen info.



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Re: Tech Corner

Postby Sslaxx » Mar 2 2017, 23:38

There's been controversy over System Shock's shifting over to UE4 (don't get confused - there's the remake of 1, not yet a 2 remake, and a separate studio is working on SS3). As for me, I'm more concerned about UE4's **** Linux support. We shall see.

So many games, so little (and ever-decreasing alas) money.

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Re: Tech Corner

Postby Pol » Mar 5 2017, 11:30

:D Money & Time game of real life!

There will be also nVidia refresh, rumors say that memory will be clocked higher about 200Mhz, otherwise the same.
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Re: Tech Corner

Postby mr.hackcrag » Mar 6 2017, 2:26

Pol wrote:
RX 550 >> RX460(energy savvy) >> RX560 (energy savvy) >> RX470 >> GTX1060 (3GB) >> RX470D (China only) >> GTX1060 (6GB) >> RX570 >> RX480



The branding of their numbers doesn't make any sense in terms of higher number relating to higher quality. :canthear:

I've heard Tides is more of a book rather than game. I can't read and have no interest in learning. :proud:
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Re: Tech Corner

Postby Pol » Mar 21 2017, 21:26

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Wouldn't believe that but Windows 10 can make it to state, that they won't launch calculator or other accessories.

This is prim. These simple apps always worked. :tsdown:

Solution is to download old calculator, with installer here. Otherwise you rely on Windows magic dism ... /restorehealth, sfc /scannow and such time eaters.
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Re: Tech Corner

Postby Pol » Mar 26 2017, 21:35

Dolby Digital (AC-3) is now free - hooray! Last patend expired at March, welcome in Linux. :P

CPU AMD Ryzen 5 is being shipped in South America, this is direct competitor for i5 Intel processors. And it shouldn't been, cause official release date will be at 5th April. Guess, someone don't care. :D
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Re: Tech Corner

Postby Pol » Mar 30 2017, 14:23

Soon will be going to reinstall Windows 10, to see if I will get back second sound card, corel draw, system restore, calculator and some other now broken stuff. Ironically on all tests Windows says that they are ok. :(
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Re: Tech Corner

Postby Pol » Apr 2 2017, 19:44

Reinstalled with image tool and everything is as smooth as it should be.
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Re: Tech Corner

Postby Pol » Apr 4 2017, 19:09

In April we should be able to taste AMD RX 570 mini - curious if it will be on par with GTX 1060 mini, best if even in refresh edition. Competition, prices go down! :D
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Re: Tech Corner

Postby mr.hackcrag » Apr 22 2017, 2:38

http://www.microcenter.com/site/product ... ndles.aspx

The 3.4 ghz Ryzen is $370 and the 3.0 ghz Ryzen is $320, but with the motherboard bundle deals, they can be equally priced. Which bundle deal do you think is the best value?
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Re: Tech Corner

Postby Pol » Apr 22 2017, 22:23

Probably this

http://www.microcenter.com/product/4760 ... otherboard

because of chipset. Don't forget that you will need memory, where faster is better, with DDR4 3600 it sounds da best. And you will also need cpu cooler. There is none or wraith in the box.

Ha, or you may wait for APU models, in the end of this year.

Sorry, no personal experience this time.

If you have no plans for overcloking, you may go with B350, after situations with bios updates settle a bit.

If money are the issue you may consider Ryzen 5. ;)
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Re: Tech Corner

Postby mr.hackcrag » Apr 23 2017, 2:22

How are APU models better? Don't you still have to get video card to play high end stuff?

I have old DDR3 8 GB right now. Will I need to upgrade that too?

How much should be spent on a CPU cooler?
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Re: Tech Corner

Postby Pol » Apr 25 2017, 21:50

Yes, for playing the best games you need the best cards. However how big you are player and what you are playing?

Noticeably with current AMD APU H7 is playable, that's however all about that.

This time new CPU = new memory, DDR4 is coming on scene. So, yes. Obligatory.

Ah, that's a good question. Well I like sandwich coolers and they usually cost a little over 24$. Old coolers will need a reduction for new socket.
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Re: Tech Corner

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Re: Tech Corner

Postby Pol » Apr 26 2017, 9:14

16GB is advisable, as you will be building new computer, the second link is better. For AMD the speed matter, for Intel, hmm, practically not.

As for the cooler, this with reduction could make it. But it's depending on cpu power consumption. If you would like to have sandwich you will need to buy additional 12cm cooler and ensure that cooler is coming with two more clips, on the other side.

Home, I have this one with extra 12cm Noctua.
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