Zenofex wrote:You aren't saying anything, this social norms thing is a huge generalization which can not be applied to the special case of the army recruitment. And here's your mistake.
Yeah, it's not like you're ignoring how necessity, like in the case of the israelis, trumps the social norms that exclude women from mandatory recruitment in most places, and very likely lead to low voluntary recruitment...
Actually if you read my previous posts carefully, you'll find out that's exactly what you do.
Nah, i'm just having fun watching you argue against a strawman of what i said...
And that's not even getting into the tortured logic you use (women don't want to fight -> they aren't capable to fight or women aren't as capable as men at something -> they're useless at that thing).
The absence of meaning is usually obvious, yes.
Sure, because actually trying to figure it out is too hard, so why not dismiss it as gibberish...
Are you in the US? If yes, maybe this is so there but in this case you forget that there are only 300 million people living in the said country. Out of more than 6 billion on the entire planet.
But anyway, this is no argument, you are just trying too hard to fabricate something because there aren't really many things that can be said in defence of your position. Obesity...
Actually the rest of the developed world is catching up to the US in that regard: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-11730091
And heaven forbid you try to understand an analogy about your mistakes in logic.
First - Plato is an opponent of the democracy and almost all of its value, what does he have to do with this subject? I'd quote him if I want to prove that it's a good thing to have a caste-based society.
The fact that you don't even know about the allegory makes you quite unqualified to talk about Plato.
And dismissing one claim of someone based on another, unrelated claim is something you should learn not to do any more, it will really help you if you ever want to do anything that has something to do with logic.
Second - if you are so pretty sure, find me some researches on the subject, historical mass demonstrations about it, ongoing court lawsuits - whatever you want. But with more than 2-3 participants, please! And not just "annoyed" women - nobody is claiming that he/she's discriminated because something annoys him/her and that's great because otherwise nobody would be able to get out of the court room for his/her entire life. Give me something material.
Right, they just let women join the army while no on was demanding such a thing... just like they repealed Don't ask Don't tell even if no homosexuals where complaining about it...
Ahem, and how many of the girls you know want or ever wanted to become soldiers? Give me exact figures. Also, if you want it to be scientific, you may also bring some statistical information about the part of the female work force that wants to join the army compared to the male workforce. Otherwise just admit that you're defending some theory that doesn't need defenders at all.
About as many as men i know that want to become soldiers... about zero. does me not knowing any men that want to be soldiers mean i should complain about male units in the game?
But you seem to have missed the point that wanting to and being a good addition to the army are two different things... ask Joan of Arc.
dark-whisperer wrote:What I still find amusing is that no one objects when they see half naked woman game model bearing see trough scarf around bust and humble loincloth or no cloth at all.
I find it funny how you think that's relevant for whether or not there are too many female units... especially since the nun seems to be the most used example of how they don't belong and she's covered head to toe.
And that discussion was already had around the time of the S&M Dungeon's reveal for H5... it even went as far as wondering if the crotch protector wasn't hiding extra equipment.