Neutral Units Bonuses

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The formula for bonuses shoud be like?

Poll ended at 26 Oct 2007, 00:20

1. 7 attack, 7 defense and 50% hp every month like it is now?
2
33%
2. % of base attack and defense every month(lower creatures gain slower bonuses)
4
67%
 
Total votes: 6

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Unread postby BAD23ro » 23 Oct 2007, 10:54

The formula will be almost final in the next update and will be like this:

Level 1 creatures will get 3 attack, defense per month instead of 7 as in version 3.6
Level 2 creatures will get 4 attack, defense per month instead of 7 as in version 3.6
Level 3 creatures will get 5 attack, defense per month instead of 7 as in version 3.6
Level 4 creatures will get 7 attack, defense per month(same as version 3.6)
Level 5 creatures will get 8 attack, defense per month instead of 7 as in version 3.6
Level 6 creatures will get 9 attack, defense per month instead of 7 as in version 3.6
Level 7-8 creatures will get 10 attack, defense per month instead of 7 as in version 3.6


Also,level 1-4 creatures have less health bonuses per month as before(level 1-2 creatures less with 35% and maximum 14% per month instead of 49%; level 3 creatures less with 21% and maximum 28% per month instead of 49%; level 4 creatures less with 8% and maximum 41% per month instead of 49%).

Level 5-8 creatures have more health bonuses per month as before(7% more and maximum 56% instead of 49%).


When Starting Hero Boost will be ready, then after month 3, we will get more experience from level 5-8 creatures. This will be calculated after a % of their bonuses.


More to be added later. Script will be update in a few days or next week.

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Unread postby Pol » 23 Oct 2007, 13:15

I like that idea although I lack the time to test it. Sssh, atm I even haven't wog installed on my work computer.

However I'm recalling that sometimes in past I had sketched a new system for fights and skills in wog, layed up more over MoM principles, but as here's not possibility to add new skills and abilities freely I put it on hold till times when it will.
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Unread postby BAD23ro » 23 Oct 2007, 13:28

:)
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Unread postby BAD23ro » 05 Nov 2007, 20:46

:)
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Unread postby BAD23ro » 30 Nov 2007, 20:23

When will have time, will try to make some changes requested by some players like:

1. Units with fire shield will gain less health bonuses that rest of the creatures;
2. Trying to implement "Starting Hero Boost" even for 3.58f. This script as I said, gives extra experience from bonuses(for now just for level 5-8 creatures), unique spell boost for casters , improved spells and more.


If have any requests or want more features for Neutral Units Bonuses send me a private message or post here.

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Unread postby BAD23ro » 02 Feb 2008, 04:15

Removed the link for now
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Unread postby ByteBandit » 02 Feb 2008, 07:43

And this is configured for 3.59, correct? May have to reinstall my 3.59 test exe soon.

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Unread postby BAD23ro » 02 Feb 2008, 09:17

@ ByteBandit

Yeah :)

I posted on CoreWog's forums and you should have access, because you are in Wog Team ;)


Btw, 10+ for your avatar :D

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Unread postby ByteBandit » 02 Feb 2008, 09:30

BAD23ro wrote:@ ByteBandit

Yeah :)

I posted on CoreWog's forums and you should have access, because you are in Wog Team ;)


Btw, 10+ for your avatar :D
Okay. I may have to take a visit over there soon.

Thanks about the avatar. It hatched from the darkness! :D

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Unread postby BAD23ro » 02 Feb 2008, 11:48

Hope to see you there soon :)

I updated the file even for 3.58f...1st page ;)

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Unread postby ByteBandit » 03 Feb 2008, 04:01

I see from some of Grayfaces' tryouts on something else, there are still a few bugs to work out. I like the idea and concept still, however. ;)

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Unread postby obelisk v2.0 » 13 Feb 2008, 07:13

i think don't change the bonuses of the neutral armies at all, leave them as they are, just remove the part where all neutrals turn savage.
about that extra spell info - very useful, that's a must.
on page 1 there was this suggestion to modify spell damage to deal equal number of kills on neutrals and player-controlled creatures. i think that's not very necessary.

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Unread postby BAD23ro » 13 Feb 2008, 09:30

@ obelisk v2.0

The formula has been changed 3 months ago and now depends on creature's level. Is already updated it on first post ;)

About spells there is a new formula already implemented in 3.59, but won't work if neutral units bonuses and stack aren't enabled.

Is only for hybrids and pure casters...Isn't to deal damage equal to neutral units, is much complicated....:)...all depends on your power, day and level of hero is the most important think...

Damaging spells become obsolete in time beause of bonuses and I tried to fix this for pure casters or hybrids, but only against neutral for now...



I'll post later an short addapted version for 3.58f

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Unread postby BAD23ro » 02 Mar 2008, 10:33

:D
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Unread postby Pol » 02 Mar 2008, 10:36

Ah, finally something new and fresh. :D
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Unread postby BAD23ro » 02 Mar 2008, 20:05

Is new for 3.58f, but this code as you know is ready for 3.59 as well..at least for 90%...

Hope to find a way to addapt more from 3.59 to 3.58f ;)

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Unread postby BAD23ro » 07 Mar 2008, 14:42

If are problems or if are some requests, post here. :)

My plans for future are:
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1. Bonuses and Stack Growth will be addapted for map size;
2. New formula for bonuses for the units with fire shield, death stare, ignore defense and Lycanthropy;
3. Starting Hero Boost will have a boost for native towns(for instance: tower won't have penalities on snow and increased movement on that surface using hero's level and army on that surface).

These are plans for near future and will be done when I have time. ;)

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Unread postby BAD23ro » 01 May 2008, 00:12

;)
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Unread postby Omnax » 04 Aug 2008, 12:08

Hi,

Can anyone send me final version of the Neutral Units Bonuses (2.7 Full Version) and Starting Hero Boost addapted for 3.58f please?

I have tried to find them somewhere on the internet but without luck. Links in this topic does not work anymore.

My email is Omnax@seznam.cz

Or give me working link, I would really appriciate that, Thank you.

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Unread postby BAD23ro » 10 Aug 2008, 23:01

Link will be updated it.
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