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Most valuable upgrade

Postby Corribus » Mar 19 2008, 16:32

Of all the H5 upgrades, which is the best? And by this I don't mean what is the most valuable upgraded unit. What I mean is, which upgrade offers the most improvement over the respective standard unit? Opinions, please!
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Postby Dacarnix_ » Mar 19 2008, 17:13

Most improved is pretty tough to qualify, but the biggest jumps by faction in my book are...

Colossus -> Storm Titan
Scout -> Assassin
Archer -> Crossbowman
Skeleton -> Skeletal Archer
Hellhound -> Firehound
Hunter -> Arcane Archer
Bear Rider -> Blackbear Rider
Slayer -> Executioner

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Postby Corribus » Mar 19 2008, 17:22

In most of the previous HoMM, it's always been troops that went from non-shooter to shooter. H5 seems to be no exception. The reason however I thought to post this is because I was playing with the Academy last night and it struck me how much better the Rakshasa upgrades (particularly the Rajas) are than the unupgraded Rakshasa Ranis.
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Postby Odish » Mar 19 2008, 23:14

I think that one of the most important upgrades is blood maiden to blood fury. you just can't use this units until they are upgraded.
more important upgrades are:
gremlins to MG or saboture- The initiative boost is critical.
colosus to titan- becoming a shooter, obviously.
skeleton to archer- again.
hound to cerebrus, firehound- the no retal is crucial.
The rest of the units are all playable as unupgraded even if they gain significant boost.
The ones I posted above I never take with me before upgrading them

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Postby PhoenixReborn » Mar 20 2008, 2:03

Let's see...

Goblin to goblin trapper is pretty important.

Either succubus upgrade.

Bear upgrade for paw strike is excellent.

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Postby tb5841 » Mar 20 2008, 9:30

Hell Hound --> Cerberus wins it for me. Not far behind
Succubi --> Seducers, or Imps --> Familiars...

In fact, I think most Inferno upgrades are vital, their creatures are pretty useless before being upgraded, while most other creatures are fine.

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Postby okrane » Mar 20 2008, 10:52

Well for this question I think we should start thinking about what upgrade is not valuable? The rest surely will be.

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Postby Corribus » Mar 20 2008, 13:30

okrane wrote:Well for this question I think we should start thinking about what upgrade is not valuable? The rest surely will be.

Some creatures I don't bother to upgrade.. or at least, I don't make it a priority.

For example:
Ghosts and Wraiths
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Postby wimfrits » Mar 21 2008, 10:12

I personally feel that value of an upgrade is primarily determined early game, when resources are scarce and an upgrade is a crucial investment in more efficient creeping. In that perspective, I think the following 4 upgrades are valuable:

1. blood maiden > blood fury. Pretty much all Dungeon needs until getting dragons. Enables player to spend all resources on town development.
2. pixie > sprite. Sylvan's edge in early creeping and all fights against slow walkers.
3. archer > crossbowman/marksman. All Haven needs until getting cavaliers or angels.
4. scout > stalker. Highly exploitable special vs AI, perfect in combination with a spellcasting hero. Backup for when blood fury cannot be used.
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Postby ThunderTitan » Mar 21 2008, 10:26

Upgrades... :disagree:
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Postby Odish » Mar 21 2008, 19:46

What's wrong with upgrades?
Sure' some are useless or unnessecary but other then that, what is the problem?


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