Plague Zombie vs. Disease Zombie
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Zombies?
I think they are the most useless creatures in the whole game. Just like in H3, where you wouldn't do their building if it wasn't a requirment for the mausoleum, here in H5 I wouldn't do if i wasn't in my way for Capitol.
They aren't usable in the begining, nor in the middle, and if you rely on them in the end, than, that's the seddest thing.
I think they are the most useless creatures in the whole game. Just like in H3, where you wouldn't do their building if it wasn't a requirment for the mausoleum, here in H5 I wouldn't do if i wasn't in my way for Capitol.
They aren't usable in the begining, nor in the middle, and if you rely on them in the end, than, that's the seddest thing.
"Rage against the system, the system, what kills the human spirit."
I find that Rot Zombies are better, as with the slightly higher Initiative they actually stand a chance of hitting something (especially after Mass Slow). They are usually just there to look after the Archers/Liches, but because they don't often fight you can get quite a few of them and that's useful in a really long battle.
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they are very usefull as meatshield for your sceleton archersMuszka wrote:Zombies?
I think they are the most useless creatures in the whole game. Just like in H3, where you wouldn't do their building if it wasn't a requirment for the mausoleum, here in H5 I wouldn't do if i wasn't in my way for Capitol.
They aren't usable in the begining, nor in the middle, and if you rely on them in the end, than, that's the seddest thing.
treants are dendrosexual 0_o
I don't think they are so good as meatshield since upgradeing such an unit won't repay me. I rather go for Vampire upg.haloswift wrote:they are very usefull as meatshield for your sceleton archersMuszka wrote:Zombies?
I think they are the most useless creatures in the whole game. Just like in H3, where you wouldn't do their building if it wasn't a requirment for the mausoleum, here in H5 I wouldn't do if i wasn't in my way for Capitol.
They aren't usable in the begining, nor in the middle, and if you rely on them in the end, than, that's the seddest thing.
And when I have skeletron archers I already have the Vamp upg.
Although in a WoG campaign I had some Zombies with 500 HP, 50 attack, 50 def, 50 speed. It was interesting.
I never liked them before nor after.
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agreed, I prefer not upgrading them at allMuszka wrote:Zombies?
I don't think they are so good as meatshield since upgradeing such an unit won't repay me. I rather go for Vampire upg.
And when I have skeletron archers I already have the Vamp upg.
Although in a WoG campaign I had some Zombies with 500 HP, 50 attack, 50 def, 50 speed. It was interesting.
I never liked them before nor after.
treants are dendrosexual 0_o
Zombies provide the most HP per unit of Dark Energy for a Necro to raise (and Skeletons provide the most damage per unit of DE). If you rely on magic (Destructive or Summoning with Phoenix) to win battles, they can be used effectively - they take a lot of time to kill, and Mark of the Necro placed on them provides you with mana. All your Zombies have to do is Defend, the hero will do the killing.
If you manage to take Preparation ability, Plague Zombies start to become very interesting. You just have to Defend with them, as even 1-Zombie stack will cause Plague on the unit attacking it, even if the entire stack will be killed. Preparation allows them to strike first even on defence. Nearly the same can be done with Last Stand ability, though you'll need stacks of 2 Plague Zombies each.
If you manage to take Preparation ability, Plague Zombies start to become very interesting. You just have to Defend with them, as even 1-Zombie stack will cause Plague on the unit attacking it, even if the entire stack will be killed. Preparation allows them to strike first even on defence. Nearly the same can be done with Last Stand ability, though you'll need stacks of 2 Plague Zombies each.
Don't forget that Necro is in many ways unique. And necro can be an unfillable hole, what concerns the money, I mean, the Necro can convert every other unit to their own. If someone plays Necro he/she really should consider even from begining what he/she spends money on, 'cos every coin can mean another dragon, every resource can mean another lich. So spending on some Zombies what you buy only to defend with them is somehow cutting branches under yourself.yuritch wrote:Zombies provide the most HP per unit of Dark Energy for a Necro to raise (and Skeletons provide the most damage per unit of DE). If you rely on magic (Destructive or Summoning with Phoenix) to win battles, they can be used effectively - they take a lot of time to kill, and Mark of the Necro placed on them provides you with mana. All your Zombies have to do is Defend, the hero will do the killing.
If you manage to take Preparation ability, Plague Zombies start to become very interesting. You just have to Defend with them, as even 1-Zombie stack will cause Plague on the unit attacking it, even if the entire stack will be killed. Preparation allows them to strike first even on defence. Nearly the same can be done with Last Stand ability, though you'll need stacks of 2 Plague Zombies each.
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Zombies are awesome to draw Retaliations!
The Aura of Rot Zombie is pretty cool too.
Also in campaign i used them alot because they can stand a lot of damage. I didn't have to wait for my other creatures to come along when you have Avatar of Death. And when facing Ranged opponents Zombies is just what you need in order for your summoned Phoenix/Elemental or Avatar of Death to come and destroy everybody since the crippers (did i say that right?) dont attack your summoned creatures.
And even if you dont have Summoning, i still think they are very useful.
Necromancers creatures are all cheap anyway.
The Aura of Rot Zombie is pretty cool too.
Also in campaign i used them alot because they can stand a lot of damage. I didn't have to wait for my other creatures to come along when you have Avatar of Death. And when facing Ranged opponents Zombies is just what you need in order for your summoned Phoenix/Elemental or Avatar of Death to come and destroy everybody since the crippers (did i say that right?) dont attack your summoned creatures.
And even if you dont have Summoning, i still think they are very useful.
Necromancers creatures are all cheap anyway.
I don't think they are cheap. Even if the Zombies would be cheaper than skeletrons, I wouldn't buy them. They are weak, they are slow, and because of that they usuall miss every battle, so their retaliation absorbing won't save you so much units, to worth spending you money on them, nor their upgrades worth the money that can better be spent elsewhere.Ar.Pi wrote:Zombies are awesome to draw Retaliations!
The Aura of Rot Zombie is pretty cool too.
Also in campaign i used them alot because they can stand a lot of damage. I didn't have to wait for my other creatures to come along when you have Avatar of Death. And when facing Ranged opponents Zombies is just what you need in order for your summoned Phoenix/Elemental or Avatar of Death to come and destroy everybody since the crippers (did i say that right?) dont attack your summoned creatures.
And even if you dont have Summoning, i still think they are very useful.
Necromancers creatures are all cheap anyway.
But if you like them, than your free to go. It's a surprize for me that someone likes Zombies.
"Rage against the system, the system, what kills the human spirit."
It's more of a multiplayer thing. In multi, Liches are rarely raised (and raising Dragons in multi is just bad, they cost so much DE for such a mediocre unit). Zombies or Skeletons, on the other hand, are useful there. And Vampires if your hero is Lucretia. Zombies do well against magic-oriented opponents such as Warlocks (more HP = more time for your hero and your Phoenix to kill enemy troops), Skeletons do better against might factions (more damage to enemy units).
You don't spend money or resources on Zombies, just the DE.
You don't spend money or resources on Zombies, just the DE.
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