HOF/ 1.4 Skill changes
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HOF/ 1.4 Skill changes
I started playing the HOF wizard single player scenario and see that Consume Artifact has changed. I remember JJ wrote that it was going to change.
It basically acts as a resurrect spell from the description. I have no idea how strong it is. Perhaps a modder can look at the code for it and tell us what the strength of the resurrect is based on.
GOW
It basically acts as a resurrect spell from the description. I have no idea how strong it is. Perhaps a modder can look at the code for it and tell us what the strength of the resurrect is based on.
GOW
Frodo: "I wish the ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened."
Gandalf: "So do all who live to see such times but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."
Gandalf: "So do all who live to see such times but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."
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I'll give it a shot:Through the process of destroying of a mini-artifact great ammounts of energy are released that the wizard manipulates and channels into healing power.There,doesn't sound too bad.I've heard worse
One of my favourite tactics when I don't know a correct answer is to choose one side and THEN try to make it look right.It works!
One of my favourite tactics when I don't know a correct answer is to choose one side and THEN try to make it look right.It works!
I, for one, am dying to find out what colour they paint Michael's toenails.
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well at least i hate things that look ridiculous... even in an imaginary world some logic must apply... I mean... I really doubt there exist an universe where a proposition can be true and false at the same time...fly away wrote:Are you another logic-seeker?okrane wrote:interesting... but a little bizare...
how would consuming the artifact would actually resurect the creatures?? ... it's just really hard to explain imo... even in an imaginary world...
and taking a medal or badge from the gremlins' chest I think it can only dissapoint them... resurecting... I doubt it....
But still it is a useful change for the game mecanics, and balance
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Not really.Heres an explanation:Magics required to boost large numbers of creatures are beeing tightly packed in a very small place(an artifact),thus setting those energies loose at once produce quite a powerfull effect.okrane wrote:interesting... but a little bizare...
how would consuming the artifact would actually resurect the creatures?? ... it's just really hard to explain imo... even in an imaginary world...
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Have you tested Town Portal and Dim Door?Sir_Toejam wrote:well, given that the topic title is general enough, here's another one:
snatch eliminates the movement penalty for the summon creatures spell.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-classical_logicokrane wrote:I really doubt there exist an universe where a proposition can be true and false at the same time...
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not yet;
I'll get a chance to test TP tommorrow.
EDIT:
nope, doesn't work for TP.
I'll get a chance to test TP tommorrow.
EDIT:
nope, doesn't work for TP.
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It's a rather interesting debate and I don't know if I should get into it...Gaidal Cain wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-classical_logicokrane wrote:I really doubt there exist an universe where a proposition can be true and false at the same time...
All those models are just that IMO, to compensate for the lack of information about something or support some wider theories. Sure it can be imagined but it also has to work...
That's rather like my Linear Algebra class, where the fundamental rules were contradictory to each other. But of course they couldn't cancel each other out... they were the rules... made up as they were.
By the way, Consume can mean a few different things. The wizard using up an artifact to power a resurrection spell would be consuming the artifact. There's your magical logic for ya .
By the way, Consume can mean a few different things. The wizard using up an artifact to power a resurrection spell would be consuming the artifact. There's your magical logic for ya .
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When I said imagined I meant imagined on paper, i.e. start from the logic axioms without the one that states p & !p = true and see what you can come up with.
You can also start considering new axioms and build a logic, geometry or world based on it...
It's like the axiom of parallels: if you start from the fact that throgh a certain point passes only one parallel you come up with Euclidean geometry which relates to a world that is on the surface of a plane.
Needless to say if you consider that you can draw no parallel or infinately many you obtain other geometries :the surface of a sphere or a hyperboloide
But not all these worlds could exist... our world has a spherical geometry... but we still utilise euclidean geometry to describe it... because it provides a good aproximation at small dimensions.
Anyway... to put an end to this nonsense... I believe we can imagine stuff, we can even use them to explain certain phenomenon, but we must at least follow a certain logic...
Allowing everything just because it's an imaginary world greatly reduces credibility....
You can also start considering new axioms and build a logic, geometry or world based on it...
It's like the axiom of parallels: if you start from the fact that throgh a certain point passes only one parallel you come up with Euclidean geometry which relates to a world that is on the surface of a plane.
Needless to say if you consider that you can draw no parallel or infinately many you obtain other geometries :the surface of a sphere or a hyperboloide
But not all these worlds could exist... our world has a spherical geometry... but we still utilise euclidean geometry to describe it... because it provides a good aproximation at small dimensions.
Anyway... to put an end to this nonsense... I believe we can imagine stuff, we can even use them to explain certain phenomenon, but we must at least follow a certain logic...
Allowing everything just because it's an imaginary world greatly reduces credibility....
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having fun with matricies, eh?That's rather like my Linear Algebra class, where the fundamental rules were contradictory to each other. But of course they couldn't cancel each other out... they were the rules... made up as they were.
hope your instructor was a sight more interesting than the robotic drone I had.
ugh.
i gave up going to class and just used the text.
even philosophically speaking "abstract" and "made up" are two different things.made up as they were
abstract concepts in mathematics still follow the rules of logic, otherwise nobody could predict outcomes of fomulae based on them, even in theory.
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