Caradoc wrote: HodgePodge wrote:
… If you want you want to make a differance in this world, you have to make your voice heard and you also have to be willing to take action.
Even if in the end, all this talk doesn't change a single thing, at least we tried to make things better. It's so much better than simply accepting the status quo.
And if you really
want what you say to count for something, you have to find common ground with those you are speaking with. All these unsupported statements like 'Heroes IV sucked' and 'Heroes V sucks' don't contribute anything to the discussion. Sure, you have the right to ***** and moan, and if it makes you feel good, go ahead. But if you want your opinions to make a difference, then set aside the sneering and make some constructive suggestions.)
What unsupported statements are you talking about? You would think that the amount of times people have mentioned the serious flaws of the game by now, people would know them by heart. There was a list created during the beta of many of the things that needed to be addressed, yet very few of them apparantly were. There have been many valid and constructive comments since then about what steps needed to be taken, but most of it has fallen on deaf ears. Months later, people's patience are starting to wear out.
If you see someone write that H5 sucks, that's just a short way of referring to that long list of problems without having to type it out every single time. If we had to type out every problem in each of our posts, then this thread would be about several times longer than it is.
And we have found common ground. Everyone knows the skill system is great, the initiative system, while it needs refining for some creatures, is an interesting innovation. The only thing we haven't found common ground on is the silly arguement of whether some people should praise or bash the game. My only thought is, how can we make the game better without talking about it's downsides? What are you going to say, "H5 needs to be fixed because the skill system is so wonderful." This game needs a serious overhaul to fix all it's problems. These problems prevent it from being great and push it down into the mundane.
As I see it, the way to judge a game is whether you can enjoy playing it. It may not be the very game you always dreamed of, but can it entertain you? If not, please realize that others may like it and that's just how people are. We don't all like the same music, movies, or books. Why should we like the same games? The gaming experience is necessarily subjective, since it includes the player as well as the game.
Game experience is subjective, but that doesn't mean it's impossible to come to a consensus whether a game is good or not. Game magazines give ratings to games based on technical aspects as well as fun factor. Same can be said about movies, books, etc. H5 clearly ranks poorly in technical aspects, regardless if one can have a good time playing it. This makes the overall game of much lower quality. I think we should demand a higher calibur homm game. Sorry if those demands are so crazy, like actually finishing the making of the game, or fixing all the bugs. You would think that the developers, if nothing more than out of shame, would have done these things by now.
(Some other day, we can talk about why there are bugs. The reasons may surprise you. )
I agree with ChinaBlue, I want to be surprised now.