What should an expainsion inclued???

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What should an expainsion inclued???

Unread postby Jimmpi » 08 Jun 2006, 14:53

Just like the topic says..what should it inclued if you where to diside?
In my eyes it should be the following:

¤ Most/All the bugs.
¤ Some mod to creature stats like the devils speed etc
¤ 2 new towns:
- Dwarves that would look like this
lvl 1 Gnome/Gnome archer.
lvl 2 Boar/ Boar Rider
lvl 3 War Dwarf/ Berserker
lvl 4 Ice Hawk/ Frost Falcon or pegasus/silver pegasus..
lvl 5 Red dragon/ Crystal Dragon
lvl 6 Dwarven Lord/ Dwarven Warlord
lvl 7 Giant/ Frost Giant

- And Stronghold that would look like this
lvl 1 Goblin/Hobgoblin
lvl 2 Orc/Orc Berzerker
lvl 3 Wolf Rider/Warg Raider
lvl 4 Ogre/Ogre Shaman (Ogre Magi)
lvl 5 Roc/Thunderbird
lvl 6 Behemoth/Ancient Behemoth
lvl 7 Cyclops/Mountain Cyclops

¤ LOTS more maps and bigger maps
¤ A map maker tool
¤ Some more campain
¤ Better AI

Any thoughts on what I would se? Any thing I forgot or any thing that I think should be in that you dislike?
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Unread postby Gus » 08 Jun 2006, 15:02

don't you think recruiting "kings" is a bit bland ? there is only a handful of kings, not +7 per week per castle ^^

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Unread postby Wolfshanze » 08 Jun 2006, 15:09

Gus wrote:don't you think recruiting "kings" is a bit bland ? there is only a handful of kings, not +7 per week per castle ^^
Dang Gus... always so negative.

If it was level-7 Cyclops King, it would only be 1 per week!

Try and be positive. ;)

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Unread postby Jimmpi » 08 Jun 2006, 15:14

thats for pointing that out wolfshanze... ;)

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Unread postby Gus » 08 Jun 2006, 15:19

"always so negative" ? i don't think so.
Dwarf Warlord is cool. Dwarf King, no, and i'm explaining why.

As for Cyclops Kings, it's not the same because we know Dwarves live in society, and have social rules, and possibly a King. For Cyclops, we naturally assume this is not a ruler's title, but rather means "Stronger Cyclops".

EDIT: see Wolfy, the difference between you and me? I give arguments and i'm NOT yelling at ANYONE using CAPS every TWO words. Try and take model instead of trying to bash me ;)

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Unread postby thecheese » 08 Jun 2006, 15:24

More artifacts, and descriptions for all of them. Though I honestly hope the descritpions get taken care of before an expansion.

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Unread postby Paradox » 08 Jun 2006, 15:32

all bugs fixed.
20 new maps. (or more)
dwarves and lizardmen towns.
lots more neutral monsters, neutral monster dwellings and other misc buildings that were in Homm III.
more artifacts
more "fun" spells for adventure map etc
improved AI.

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Unread postby Rapier » 08 Jun 2006, 15:56

New campains, ideally at least one which follows on from Dark Messiah (which follows on from heroes 5), and one which sets up MMX.
~ Rapier.

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Unread postby Jimmpi » 08 Jun 2006, 16:01

ops, more netral creatrue and misc buidling was something I forgot..sorry people.. About the description of artifacts I really hope it's taken care of before any expansion..

And "gus"..how about Dwarven Warlord/ Dwarven Knight instead?..Better? ;)

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Unread postby Wolfshanze » 08 Jun 2006, 16:08

Gus wrote: EDIT: see Wolfy, the difference between you and me? I give arguments and i'm NOT yelling at ANYONE using CAPS every TWO words. Try and take model instead of trying to bash me ;)
What are you talking about? You're the only one using caps in this thread!

Try and be positive... don't be so negative! :D

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Unread postby Gus » 08 Jun 2006, 16:13

@Jimmpi
anything that doesn't imply "there's only a handful" while you can recruit plenty. This is already something stupid with the Dragons, let's not add other stuff for people like Wolfy to constantly whine and mourn about, please.

@Wolfy
but you know, there is not only this thread. And in order to be positive about something, there has to be something positive in it. I don't see anything positive in your attitude, because either:
- you WHINE and COMPLAIN about UBI, all in CAPS (everywhere but in this thread)
or
- you post off-topic and personal attacks (this thread).
so, just drop it ;)

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Unread postby Wolfshanze » 08 Jun 2006, 16:24

Actually you're the one speaking of absolutes Gus... you say I "whine" and "complain" in every thread (using caps again I see), when you're surely exagerating to try and win a pointless accusation. It's just not true... yet, you're perfectly okay to accuse me of things and complain about other people's threads, and yet you're Mr Perfect?!?! Nice double-standard there... people who live in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones. What makes your personal attacks on me (in multiple threads) righteous? You've been following me around in thread after thread accusing me of not having a right to voice my opinion because you don't like it... yet you can voice negative opinions and you're perfect. Your posts smack of hypocracy, for you are truely a demagogue of the highest order.

Jimmpi... I like your ideas... and there's nothing wrong with using "King"... especially for a level-7 Cyclops (I thought they should always be level-7 creatures). I miss the might-only town, and we need Stronghold to come back.

As for your Dwarf town, I think maybe the dragons should be higher on the scale (or perhaps dropped for something else). Dunno... I'd put more thought into it, but I'm sure if Ubi adds a new race they'll do whatever they want to do... I doubt they'll match anyones suggestions here.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see what Ubi does in an expansion, but I fully expect to see two new towns (whatever they may be) when it comes out.

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Unread postby Paradox » 08 Jun 2006, 16:29

stop arguing for christ sake take it to a PM.

dwarven knight doesnt sound very good..

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Unread postby Wolfshanze » 08 Jun 2006, 16:31

Dwarf Cheiftan... Dwarf Lord

Also, Yeti and Dragon should be swapped.

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Unread postby Jimmpi » 08 Jun 2006, 16:36

Wolfshanze wrote:Dwarf Cheiftan... Dwarf Lord

Also, Yeti and Dragon should be swapped.
OK, you dont like the ide red dragon/crystal dragon??
Instead of the Yeti you could have Giant/Frost Giant..would that be better
About the dwaven knight I agree,,it sound bad,,Dwaven King sound better in my ears.

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Unread postby Gus » 08 Jun 2006, 16:40

*sigh*
indeed, let's drop this. Using the forum search on the posts you make will provide enough proofs, anyway =)

EDIT: proofs of you using caps all the time, among the other things i have said =) you want us to check ? you really want me to go fetch a few links quickly ? please ;)
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Unread postby Wolfshanze » 08 Jun 2006, 16:40

I don't have a problem with Red/Crystal dragon, so much as I don't like them being so low (level-5)... they should be more like level-7.

Giant/Frost Giant would be better then something... either Yeti or the Falcon units. Also, maybe "Hill Giant" and "Frost Giant".

(*sigh*... yes of Gus accusing me of everything in the world that is evil)

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Unread postby Jimmpi » 08 Jun 2006, 17:01

Hill Giant/Frost Giant would be great...any how..about the flacon/hawks I diden't know what to put in taht tier..could the pegasus/Silver Pegasus be better?

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Unread postby DaemianLucifer » 08 Jun 2006, 17:57

@Wolfshanze&Gus

Oh stop it you two!

As for the expansion:
  • - All bugs fixed
    - Bigger AI
    - Dwarven town
    - Orchish town
    - New neutrals(and not just dragons!)
    - At least one new campaign with a normal story(meaning a bit advanced plot and way better acting)
    - All bugs fixed
Thats about all I wish now.

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Unread postby addicted » 08 Jun 2006, 18:33

1. All the bugs fixed. (A Must)
2. Cheat Codes. :yes: (A Must)
3. Map Editor/Random map Generator. (A Must) :yes:
4. More Single Player Maps. (A Must!)
5. More Campaigns (not all of us play MP online you know.) (A Must)
6. More available resources :yes:
7. New towns
8. New Heroes
9. Implement more than 1 hero to be allowed to enter the castle at the same time.
10. Implement Hero's troops to be able to leave the castle to roam without a hero?
11. Implement the toggle on and off tool to allow to choose between the Full Screen mode that allows you to play the game in a full screen, or in ‘window’ mode that allows you to still see and use your desktop while the game is running. (A Must!) :yes:
Did I mention to make sure the expansion is bug free!! :)
Long live the M&M series
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