Just bought Heroes 5 TotE. Now what?

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Just bought Heroes 5 TotE. Now what?

Postby nginferno » Dec 1 2015, 13:47

So I am an utter newbie who has not a single clue what to do right now, can someone provide me some guidelines?

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Re: Just bought Heroes 5 TotE. Now what?

Postby Alfalken » Dec 1 2015, 14:04

Start the campaign? There's a tutorial one where you control Quroq if memory serves me well.

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Re: Just bought Heroes 5 TotE. Now what?

Postby Galaad » Dec 1 2015, 14:14

Hi what do you mean "utter newbie"? As in you never played Heroes before?

If so, yes campaigns is safe start to learn game mechanics but Heroes V story is a bit... :D

To me single scenarios are more fun. ;)

Basically you have heroes and castle to develop so you can lead armies to conquer, it's turn-based strategy so when you can't move your hero anymore you have to end turn by clicking on the hourglass.
You will gather resources and capture mines on the adventure map so you can build in your town, one construction a day it is. Hero leveling up will propose skills and your stats will get higher too, stats of hero will influence on strength of your army.

Battles are also turned-based, I guess you'll figure it out. From there I guess you're good to explore. :)

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Re: Just bought Heroes 5 TotE. Now what?

Postby nginferno » Dec 1 2015, 14:32

Galaad wrote:Hi what do you mean "utter newbie"? As in you never played Heroes before?

If so, yes campaigns is safe start to learn game mechanics but Heroes V story is a bit... :D

To me single scenarios are more fun. ;)

Basically you have heroes and castle to develop so you can lead armies to conquer, it's turn-based strategy so when you can't move your hero anymore you have to end turn by clicking on the hourglass.
You will gather resources and capture mines on the adventure map so you can build in your town, one construction a day it is. Hero leveling up will propose skills and your stats will get higher too, stats of hero will influence on strength of your army.

Battles are also turned-based, I guess you'll figure it out. From there I guess you're good to explore. :)


All of my heroes MM experience amounts to messing about in heroes 6 demo. I just read the reviews and went TotE because its recommended.

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Re: Just bought Heroes 5 TotE. Now what?

Postby Galaad » Dec 1 2015, 14:39

Heroes 6 is a VERY different game from the original Heroes experience, classics are Heroes 2, Heroes 3 and Heroes 5 TotE yes. TotE is a very good game, fun and addictive, although I would HIGHLY recommend that you download and install Heroes 5.5 MOD or at the very least the QUANTOMAS AI, as it not only improves the AI but also SPEEDS UP ITS TURNS DRASTICALLY.  :)
IIRC you need to install Unnoficial 3.1 patch beforehand.

Easiest is just to install h5.5 as it gets everything at once, including better textures for graphical improvement.

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Re: Just bought Heroes 5 TotE. Now what?

Postby cjlee » Dec 1 2015, 18:04

Quantomas is the best example of why I have more faith in the community than in any official developer. Heroes 7 will be saved by the community, if it is ever saved.

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Re: Just bought Heroes 5 TotE. Now what?

Postby parcaleste » Dec 2 2015, 7:52

I think there was a mod or something to download, so you can play the original HMM V campaigns on TotE, starting with the Haven campaign. I would recommend you to start with that. Yes, the story is not the brightest gem in the crown, but the original campaigns I found fun back in the day, and replaying them was also a fun. And I've replayed them several times trough the years.

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Re: Just bought Heroes 5 TotE. Now what?

Postby Galaad » Dec 3 2015, 9:12

Well, I wouldn't recommend anyone new to the series to start his experience with Ashan campaigns (even before retcons made it even worse), as I don't consider the Ubi revamp to be representative at all or faithful in any way to the original spirit of the series.

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Re: Just bought Heroes 5 TotE. Now what?

Postby parcaleste » Dec 3 2015, 9:26

Well, the guy already bought the game, so it is a bit too late to get familiar with the original lore of the series. The original campaigns are the easiest way for a new player to get really familiar with the heroes skill system, the game mechanics, etc.

One really important part of this learning experience I almost forgot about - @nginferno you'll find the Skill Wheel of great use. It will make the mess with what skill to chose a lot more easier (in some aspects).

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Re: Just bought Heroes 5 TotE. Now what?

Postby Galaad » Dec 3 2015, 9:40

I don't know, I myself learned game mechanics by playing single scenarios, campaigns I did later.

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Re: Just bought Heroes 5 TotE. Now what?

Postby nginferno » Dec 3 2015, 13:41

I'm tempted to get 5.5 right away but I'm not sure if I need to download the 3.1 patch. I got the steam version and it says 3.1. Also, where can I find basic strategies and guidelines for each hero/race?

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Re: Just bought Heroes 5 TotE. Now what?

Postby magnomagus » Dec 4 2015, 11:40

MM: Heroes 5.5 requires patch 3.1 to be installed first.

H5.5 might have an overwhelming amount of features for a newcomer, but is not more difficult to play in every aspect as the skill system is much easier to memorize (activate casual game option for RMG and multiplayer maps). For Campaigns start with 'The Queen'

I recommend to start playing with Haven faction, because it is most suitable for beginners.

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Re: Just bought Heroes 5 TotE. Now what?

Postby Kalah » Dec 4 2015, 13:55

You can also check out our walkthroughs page (scroll down for H5). :)
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Re: Just bought Heroes 5 TotE. Now what?

Postby parcaleste » Dec 4 2015, 14:22

nginferno wrote:I'm tempted to get 5.5 right away but I'm not sure if I need to download the 3.1 patch. I got the steam version and it says 3.1. Also, where can I find basic strategies and guidelines for each hero/race?

Try the original version first first. I am not saying that it's like a different game, but is quite different, especially with the skill system.

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Re: Just bought Heroes 5 TotE. Now what?

Postby Galaad » Dec 4 2015, 16:13

But then you NEED Quantomas AI (requires 3.1). ;)

And you can get Xuxo's textures from HERE. :)

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Re: Just bought Heroes 5 TotE. Now what?

Postby Kalah » Dec 4 2015, 21:54

Guys, if you're going to recommend using Quantomas' AI, give the poor lad a quick intro to it. For one, it makes the game harder. Neutral stacks can now have heroes.
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Re: Just bought Heroes 5 TotE. Now what?

Postby Galaad » Dec 4 2015, 22:43

You can set that in the menu (Neutral Champions dif.) so that it won't happen early game. Plus he can always set the overall difficulty to normal or easy. You can also set the AI behavior to aggressive or defensive. I don't think it's bad to recommend it even to a newbie, especially when the original AI turns delivered by Ubi are so damn long, making any map above L size unplayable.
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Re: Just bought Heroes 5 TotE. Now what?

Postby magnomagus » Dec 5 2015, 0:33

Actually the standalone version of Quantomas Ai is easier to beat than the 3.1 AI, because it doesn't cheat, not even on heroic. Neutral heroes are totally IMBA, but this function is switched off by default.

There are however serious script issues with QAI standalone+original campaign mod from sfidanza. If you want to play the original campaigns and not use H5.5 then you are better of sticking to the original exe file.

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Re: Just bought Heroes 5 TotE. Now what?

Postby Kalah » Dec 5 2015, 9:11

Q's AI is indeed a great thing, I'm just saying that if a newbie is going to use it, we should give him a small "tutorial" about what it can do. :)
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