Will HoMMV have a Map Editor?
Holy bouncing Buddha!Godslayer wrote:Course there's one:
http://store.ubi.com/item.jsp?item=69292
Near the bottom under competitive and instense multiplayer, in the last sentence.
They have in the past mentioned an editor would be included, but have consistently ducked the question of a campaign editor. While I am thrilled starforce is gone, if there is no campaign editor, I will not buy it. Hopefully a dedicated fan will make one if the campaign function is not included.Godslayer wrote:Course there's one:
http://store.ubi.com/item.jsp?item=69292
Near the bottom under competitive and instense multiplayer, in the last sentence.
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Well as long as it comes with a free update\patch, and not to late after release, it doesn't seem like something to despair of. Afterall, you should anyway learn the game before starting on maps
Hmm, perhaps annyoing for people with no or limited net-connection though.
Hmm, perhaps annyoing for people with no or limited net-connection though.
Who the hell locks these things?
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Agreed one should be familar with the game first and from the way it read the update will in fact be free and it will be before any expansion, now if he would just confirm it will have a campaign capability.Ethric wrote:Well as long as it comes with a free update\patch, and not to late after release, it doesn't seem like something to despair of. Afterall, you should anyway learn the game before starting on maps
Hmm, perhaps annyoing for people with no or limited net-connection though.
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It seems evident that Ubi will maintain the norm, that is that patches 'n updates will be free of charge and that expansions will cost you. I have no problem with that: fixes to existing problems and shortcomings in a product you have bought should be free; that extra things cost extra is to be expected.
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I'll buy the game without any form of editor... while it's a nice feature it doesn't imo, make or break the game.
A game with a fantastic editor that it is otherwise mediocre won't sell, while a game that itself is fantastic, with no editing potential at all (for instance any consol game that's worth mentioning) will sell well.
A game with a fantastic editor that it is otherwise mediocre won't sell, while a game that itself is fantastic, with no editing potential at all (for instance any consol game that's worth mentioning) will sell well.
~ Rapier.
According to UBI's website as of May3, 2006, this is what the info states about HV when it is released May 19th, 2006. Pay close attention to the last paragraph..
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HV
Key Features:
Cutting-edge visual technology: For the first time, experience the world of Might & Magic in a full, breathtaking 3D animated world supported by a consistent and modern graphic style.
A more mature & consistent heroic fantasy universe: Includes all the features that made the series successful in a completely revamped and more mature universe - with six unique factions and over 40 different creatures and spells.
Complete strategy experience and RPG gameplay: During six campaigns and more than 30 missions, explore and conquer territories, manage your cities, recruit armies and raise and upgrade your heroes through a user-friendly yet deep turn-based system.
Complete scalable turn-based battle system for challenging and tactical combats: Discover the combat system that made the Heroes series successful or experience the brand-new dynamic battle system that transforms a chessboard into a lively battlefield.
Competitive, addictive, and intense multiplayer mode: Play five different online modes via hot seat, LAN or the Internet. Challenge your friends in furious battles and create your own level with the EDITOR.
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Sounds to me the Editor will be included with the game when it is released.
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HV
Key Features:
Cutting-edge visual technology: For the first time, experience the world of Might & Magic in a full, breathtaking 3D animated world supported by a consistent and modern graphic style.
A more mature & consistent heroic fantasy universe: Includes all the features that made the series successful in a completely revamped and more mature universe - with six unique factions and over 40 different creatures and spells.
Complete strategy experience and RPG gameplay: During six campaigns and more than 30 missions, explore and conquer territories, manage your cities, recruit armies and raise and upgrade your heroes through a user-friendly yet deep turn-based system.
Complete scalable turn-based battle system for challenging and tactical combats: Discover the combat system that made the Heroes series successful or experience the brand-new dynamic battle system that transforms a chessboard into a lively battlefield.
Competitive, addictive, and intense multiplayer mode: Play five different online modes via hot seat, LAN or the Internet. Challenge your friends in furious battles and create your own level with the EDITOR.
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Sounds to me the Editor will be included with the game when it is released.
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Thats where you are mistaken.Just look at HIV for example.Without the fantastic editor,Im not sure anyone wouldve play it for so long.Rapier wrote:I'll buy the game without any form of editor... while it's a nice feature it doesn't imo, make or break the game.
A game with a fantastic editor that it is otherwise mediocre won't sell, while a game that itself is fantastic, with no editing potential at all (for instance any consol game that's worth mentioning) will sell well.
Surely an example of a poor game with a fantastic editor? And was HoMM IV enough of a success to save 3DO?DaemianLucifer wrote:Thats where you are mistaken.Just look at HIV for example.Without the fantastic editor,Im not sure anyone wouldve play it for so long.Rapier wrote:I'll buy the game without any form of editor... while it's a nice feature it doesn't imo, make or break the game.
A game with a fantastic editor that it is otherwise mediocre won't sell, while a game that itself is fantastic, with no editing potential at all (for instance any consol game that's worth mentioning) will sell well.
Editing is a great feature which I like, but I'd rather have a great game that I can't edit than a game that needs editing to be good, even if it has vast editing potential. (ideally, and I believe, homm V will be a great game with a great editor).
Look at Oblivion on the XBox/ PC for an example, Xbox = no modding, PC can be modded and so, imo, is better.. however the game clearly suffers from the Xbox focus and I think it needs modding just to make it worth what I paid for it. An okay game, saved by editing.
Customisation is a perk on a good product, necessary on an average or below average one. I think Homm V will be a good product and so the editor is just icing.
Obviously that icing increases replayability, I'm more likely to still be playing HoMM V when VI comees out if it has new maps released by the ocmmunity all the time.
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Or H3. That game is several years old, and there's no way it would have survived for so long if it wasn't for all the fan-created maps.DaemianLucifer wrote: But would it save 3DO even if it was the best game ever made?Im not so sure about that.And just look at how many people are playing HIV,even with its obvious flaws.
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Coupled with the comments by Fabrice, this points to the PR issue UBI has failed to address, "Conflicting information from people that are supposed to know." One would think Fabrice would know what is and what is not being included in the release, besides an editor to create your own level could mean many things, it does not confirm a MAP editor or more importantly to me a campaign editor. Assuming a bug-free experience is finally achieved in my recently released campaign, I will not be able to create an H-V version of it or any follow-ons. Therefore it is likely I won't buy it without one.addicted wrote:According to UBI's website as of May3, 2006, this is what the info states about HV when it is released May 19th, 2006. Pay close attention to the last paragraph..
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HV
Key Features:
create your own level with the EDITOR.
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Sounds to me the Editor will be included with the game when it is released.
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Yes!So you will do your next campaign in HIV then!Praizse the lord!jeff wrote:Coupled with the comments by Fabrice, this points to the PR issue UBI has failed to address, "Conflicting information from people that are supposed to know." One would think Fabrice would know what is and what is not being included in the release, besides an editor to create your own level could mean many things, it does not confirm a MAP editor or more importantly to me a campaign editor. Assuming a bug-free experience is finally achieved in my recently released campaign, I will not be able to create an H-V version of it or any follow-ons. Therefore it is likely I won't buy it without one.
Well, that is true Jeff, I guess 'Editor' doesn't necessarily mean 'Campaign Editor' I sure wish someone could get a straight answer from UBI or Fabrice about the Editor they are talking about.jeff wrote:
Coupled with the comments by Fabrice, this points to the PR issue UBI has failed to address, "Conflicting information from people that are supposed to know." One would think Fabrice would know what is and what is not being included in the release, besides an editor to create your own level could mean many things, it does not confirm a MAP editor or more importantly to me a campaign editor. Assuming a bug-free experience is finally achieved in my recently released campaign, I will not be able to create an H-V version of it or any follow-ons. Therefore it is likely I won't buy it without one.
Thanx for your expertise insight.
BTW, thanx for a great H-IV 'Dragons Fate' campaign map, looking forward to the Fridays update.
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