Is it naga faction ?

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Is it naga faction ?

Postby ecsunotos » Sep 2 2010, 4:55

From Heroes Community. It's said that these pics were drawn by Oliver Ledroit in 2007.
Is it HoMM VI ?
Is it heroes of naga faction or just naga troops of a faction ( original and upgraded troops ) ?
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Postby ThunderTitan » Sep 2 2010, 6:01

Actually i think they where old concept art left over from H5.

Frankly i hope that if the Naga are in they'll be a bit less dressed in almost exact replicas of japanese clothing...
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Postby Nelgirith » Sep 2 2010, 7:42

Aye, all the naga concepts were drawn by Olivier Ledroit and Adrian Smith for Nival for H5 (Remember the Naga Pavillion thingie in TotE ?). Tbh I don't see Ubisoft putting a Naga Geisha in a PEGI 12 game (without saying that it looks absolutely ugly).

The arts by Adrian Smith were much better :
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Even the Nival one was better : http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2 ... oncept.png

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Postby ecsunotos » Sep 2 2010, 7:55

Yup ... Oliver's were "horrible" and freaks :P

Nival's is the best I think

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Btw, I remember some one ever said in a post mention about naga faction. Any body knows about this rumor ? Is it true ?

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Postby Elvin » Sep 2 2010, 8:10

There's nothing official about it but they did say there will be a new faction. It is a probability, then again most people thought we'd see nagas in tote as well. Ubi is notorious for leaving a lot of hints that may or not play a role later.
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Postby ecsunotos » Sep 2 2010, 8:38

I don't think naga deserve to become a faction ...
don't know why ;|

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Postby Darkström » Sep 2 2010, 10:27

ecsunotos wrote:I don't think naga deserve to become a faction ...
don't know why ;|


If it means a quasi-return of the H3 fortress, many people will be happy.

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Postby theLuckyDragon » Sep 2 2010, 10:39

Japanese-themed naga sound cool!
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Postby Kalah » Sep 2 2010, 11:04

Sure, as long as they don't overdo it. With Nival (=overkill) out of the way, there is hope.
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Postby klaymen » Sep 2 2010, 11:38

Samurai-like nagas? Eww, disgusting.
Ninja troglodytes will be next faction?
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Postby Darkström » Sep 2 2010, 11:45

If you asked me, they should rather have an Indian style instead of Chinese/Japanese. Fits better to the jungle terrain and their mythological origin.

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Postby Elvin » Sep 2 2010, 11:51

Surely you don't expect a naga faction looking like this? :) H6 unit design is coherent from what you may have seen, those would make no sense not to mention they are from 2007 or something. I bet black hole wasn't even in the game back then.
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Postby Soronarr » Sep 2 2010, 12:14

Meh.....don't like it.

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Postby jeff4815 » Sep 2 2010, 12:26

klaymen wrote:Samurai-like nagas? Eww, disgusting.
Ninja troglodytes will be next faction?


Ninja Troglodytes? I sure hope so! Yeah, I don't think I'd want a Naga faction unless it had some really diverse creatures, unlike the Dwarves faction.
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Postby Dex » Sep 2 2010, 12:54

Elvin wrote:Surely you don't expect a naga faction looking like this? :) H6 unit design is coherent from what you may have seen, those would make no sense not to mention they are from 2007 or something. I bet black hole wasn't even in the game back then.


It's not Black Hole that decides about the style. It's Ubisoft, and their main artist that sets the style for all other designs is Oliver Ledroit. You might notice that the new Necropolis designs are far closer to his work that the ones Nival did, so if there is a Naga faction in, I suppose the style will resamble that of his paintings. At least to a certain extent.

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Postby Elvin » Sep 2 2010, 13:03

Sure but I'm not convinced that this is the case. This is a plain ripoff of a real culture, one that would look real uncomfortable in combat as well. The rest are rather realistic in comparison.
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Postby Jac » Sep 2 2010, 14:38

Japanese style clothing with Chinese style accessories, but seems that only the Japanese side is "visible". Typical... but really I think the artist did try to mix the cultures, but as it turns out (typically) all things oriental is only known as Japanese in the West? Too much Samurai... not enough of everything else lol.

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Postby Nelgirith » Sep 2 2010, 15:30

Dex wrote:It's not Black Hole that decides about the style. It's Ubisoft, and their main artist that sets the style for all other designs is Oliver Ledroit. You might notice that the new Necropolis designs are far closer to his work that the ones Nival did, so if there is a Naga faction in, I suppose the style will resamble that of his paintings. At least to a certain extent.


1) Olivier Ledroit is not an Ubisoft employee - just like Paul Romero and Rob King are not Ubisoft employees

2) If Olivier Ledroit draws something that Ubisoft doesn't like, they won't use it, nor buy his drawings rights - that's most likely why those nagas didn't make it to H5.

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Postby Dex » Sep 2 2010, 16:48

Nelgirith wrote:
Dex wrote:It's not Black Hole that decides about the style. It's Ubisoft, and their main artist that sets the style for all other designs is Oliver Ledroit. You might notice that the new Necropolis designs are far closer to his work that the ones Nival did, so if there is a Naga faction in, I suppose the style will resamble that of his paintings. At least to a certain extent.


1) Olivier Ledroit is not an Ubisoft employee - just like Paul Romero and Rob King are not Ubisoft employees

2) If Olivier Ledroit draws something that Ubisoft doesn't like, they won't use it, nor buy his drawings rights - that's most likely why those nagas didn't make it to H5.


On one hand you are true. Indeed what Ubisoft doesn't like doesn't get into the game, but on the other hand Ledroit was asked by Erwan Le Breton to create the identity for the game, as he said in an interview:

Strategy Informer: How were you brought to work on the Might & Magic universe?
Oliver Ledroit: Erwan got in touch with me in the first place. He was looking for a drawer who could give Might & Magic a strong visual identity. The universes I picture in my graphic novels are dark, warlike and violent. This was exactly the direction that Erwan wanted the Might & Magic world to take.

And if that's not the case, than it's one hell of a coincidence that Necropolis troops get spider legs and their back, just like we've seen a couple of years before in some images Ledroit drew.

As far as the Nagas are concerned we get concept pieces from three different artists, each of which presents the Nagas as a faction somehow featuring Asian, or even Japanese themes.

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Postby ecsunotos » Sep 3 2010, 1:02

There will be 5 factions in HoMM VI. The fifth claimed to be a new faction.
Just imagining the fifth is naga faction. What'll the lines up be ?

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Level 1 : Lizarman ... ( due to reptilian ) :P
Level 2 : Serpent Fly ( flyer but still reptilian too ) :P
Level 3 : Sheikh ... ( Indian ) :P
Level 4 : no Idea. ;|
Level 5 : Naga ... ( surely )
Level 6 : Rakshasha ... ( same indian culture w/ naga )
Level 7 : Shiva ( or one of Indian God / Goddess ( ? ))

Just for fun, guys ... :D


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