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Postby ThunderTitan » Jan 19 2011, 22:30

Looking at this one it dawns on me that the Jaguar Warrior model also has some elements in common with those 3... so it's the artist having a bit of a fixation instead of just reusing the same 3D models?!
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Postby Metathron » Jan 19 2011, 22:31

The sea looks good from afar, however they better make it come alive with fish and other creatures. Think King's Bounty for example, where I sometimes stop playing for a moment to enjoy the lovely and lively surroundings. The sea in HoMM V was virtually dead.
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Postby ThunderTitan » Jan 19 2011, 22:39

Metathron wrote:The sea in HoMM V was virtually dead.


Well that water dragon things probably ate all the fish by the time of H5... and died from starvation afterwards... that's why it's not there either...
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Postby sezerp » Jan 20 2011, 8:22

I see that obsession to guard every resource pile is still there...
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Postby ThunderTitan » Jan 20 2011, 18:57

As i recall H3 had no guarded piles of resources together with guarded ones... and guarded mines are important for pacing the game.
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Postby Kalah » Jan 20 2011, 21:02

So you'll get resources and exp. I won't complain. ;)
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Postby TheUndeadKing » Jan 20 2011, 21:37

Meh, the adventure map still has that ugly H5 feeling to it. I know, it's probably unfair to judge it by some static pictures (the game might look better in motion), but come on, it looks like H5 with updated/better textures.
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Postby Kalah » Jan 20 2011, 21:43

I ilke the new and hightened picture output Ubi policy - a picture every day. :)
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Postby sezerp » Jan 20 2011, 22:39

ThunderTitan wrote:As i recall H3 had no guarded piles of resources together with guarded ones... and guarded mines are important for pacing the game.


Exactly. Dear mapmakers: guarded resource piles are an option :-)

Kalah wrote:So you'll get resources and exp. I won't complain.


..and quite possibly lose some of your precious starting army. These are shooters, you know :-) But who knows, maybe with that new core/elite/champion thing it is not that bad.

On more serious note: not much to do on those maps... Lots of pretty, little stuff to interact with. I wonder if it will change.

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Postby LongDarkBlues » Jan 21 2011, 8:10

sezerp wrote:Lots of pretty, little stuff to interact with.
Oh for chrissakes - we've been hearing this baseless complaint since H5 - I know that 3D is scary and the change of relative object size is terrifying, because GOD KNOWS the last thing the internet wants is anything that differs from H3 in any tiny way at all. Today's screen shot:
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is just as filled with stuff as you average tiny area of a H3 map - is this really disastrously vacant?

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Because that looks fine to me. If anything, the H3 version could be even more compact to match the H6 version.

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Postby MattII » Jan 21 2011, 10:41

You have to admit though, the 3D perspective does make it at least a little bit tricky to judge how big that map is.

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Postby Kalah » Jan 21 2011, 13:43

My contacts just sent me a screenshot of the H6 map editor ...

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Postby ThunderTitan » Jan 21 2011, 13:59

Kalah has contacts... how gangsta of him.

Now ask them if Nixon knew about the Naga or not.

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sezerp wrote:Lots of pretty, little stuff to interact with.
Oh for chrissakes - we've been hearing this baseless complaint since H5 - I know that 3D is scary and the change of relative object size is terrifying, because GOD KNOWS the last thing the internet wants is anything that differs from H3 in any tiny way at all. Today's screen shot:
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is just as filled with stuff as you average tiny area of a H3 map - is this really disastrously vacant?

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5360/h3forh6screen.jpg

Because that looks fine to me. If anything, the H3 version could be even more compact to match the H6 version.


Actually the reason why it seems that there's less stuff in the 3D maps is because the hero-on-horse is smaller and also 3D maps tend to have a smaller max size too, thus the whole island takes more room so people have an expectation to see it have more stuff on it...
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Postby Variol » Jan 21 2011, 15:12

I do not use the current (H5) map editor much; mostly because I really struggle with. It's a little too complicated.

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Postby sezerp » Jan 21 2011, 16:48

LongDarkBlues wrote: I know that 3D is scary and the change of relative object size is terrifying, because GOD KNOWS the last thing the internet wants is anything that differs from H3 in any tiny way at all.


Right, because I totally said that. Oh wait, I actually said quite the opposite, that a certain _new_ feature has a chance to turn up well.... :disagree:

Change of scale is not terrifying, but if it means sacrificing gamplay then it's stupid. It's a goddamn map, no reason for it to be 'proportional', or 'realistic' except that large trees look nice.

Look at this:
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/her ... screenshot

A town, 2 mines, witch hut, 2 dwellings, watermill and lots of water and foliage. If you can sqeeze all that on comparable space on H6 map, then indeed, no reason to complain.

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If anything, the H3 version could be even more compact to match the H6 version.


Wait, so you're saying the same can be achieved in H3 using less of map's real estate ? ;|

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Postby LongDarkBlues » Jan 21 2011, 17:35

That's about 1/8 of a Small map in H3. Have they published anything about map size limits in H6? Regardless, look at that map editor above - I can't see why you couldn't make a horribly designed trainwreck of a map like the image you linked to if you really wanted to.

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Postby King Imp » Jan 21 2011, 17:38

Kalah wrote:My contacts just sent me a screenshot of the H6 map editor ...

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12 players, huh? Interesting.

As for the rest, I'd have to play around with it to see if it's better or worse than the H5 editor.

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Postby Nelgirith » Jan 21 2011, 23:06

King Imp wrote:As for the rest, I'd have to play around with it to see if it's better or worse than the H5 editor.


Technically, it can only be better. Nothing can be worse than the H5 editor :D

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Postby King Imp » Jan 22 2011, 5:16

Nelgirith wrote:
King Imp wrote:As for the rest, I'd have to play around with it to see if it's better or worse than the H5 editor.


Technically, it can only be better. Nothing can be worse than the H5 editor :D


That's true. That thing was a major clusterf***. Worst part about that garbage was if you downloaded someone else's map that had changed the parameters, then it ended up messing up every map you had. Yeah, well thought out project there Nival. :tsdown:

I'm actually hoping this new editor is more like the Heroes 3 one. That to me was perfect as it was simple to use and easy to understand.


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