Dungeon Hero Abilities

Orfinn · Unread postby **Orfinn** » 12 Feb 2006, 13:46

If you would like to take a look at the original page visit this link:
https://www.celestialheavens.com/501

Orfinn · Unread postby **Orfinn** » 12 Feb 2006, 13:46

Wheres the dark ritual? It isnt on this list and some other skills require the dark ritual skill.

Infiltrator · Unread postby **Infiltrator** » 12 Feb 2006, 14:44

Dark Ritual is under Invocation, but I can't see it here..

igoraki · Unread postby **igoraki** » 12 Feb 2006, 14:54

well,yes...all the unique skills and abilities are on hero pages

Monastor · Unread postby **Monastor** » 12 Feb 2006, 15:53

Last Aid?

What a pure nonsense... I guess, this skill makes hostile units enter the hero's tent and get poisoned ;P Yeah... sure ;P

Infiltrator · Unread postby **Infiltrator** » 12 Feb 2006, 16:01

Not to mention warlocks don't get a tent in their town anyway :/

dragonn · Unread postby **dragonn** » 12 Feb 2006, 17:41

Grail Vision!? Now that's a strange ability...

LordHoborgXVII · Unread postby **LordHoborgXVII** » 12 Feb 2006, 19:09

Last Aid seems ridiculous. If the tent can't move, and can't shoot, having it be able to do damage is stupid, since the enemy wouldn't come near it anyway. The rest of these seem very well planned out though, but potentially unbalanced. I hope Eagle Eye will be actually useful this time around.

Orfinn · Unread postby **Orfinn** » 12 Feb 2006, 19:17

Eh many times in H3 i had some problems with tent smashing creatures, letting them near the tent will make them suffer, its good since the tents have low HP in comparison to other support tools such as ballistia and trebutchet which have lots of HP.

For me Eagle Eye is always neat to have, instead of traveling long distances between towns to learn specific spells it may be easier to learn them from enemy heroes and creatures wandering around.
Edited on Sun, Feb 12 2006, 12:21 by Orfinn

LordHoborgXVII · Unread postby **LordHoborgXVII** » 12 Feb 2006, 19:38

Eagle Eye does come in handy sometimes, but its usefulness is much less in comparison to most other skills. It's much better to focus on other skills instead of trying to bring your Eagle Eye up to a decent level and try to utilize it. Given that most creatures don't cast spells, and having an enemy hero cast a spell that you don't know but have the capability to learn is a relatively rare occurence, I usually pick some more concrete skills rather than hoping there'll be a favorable circumstance for the Eagle Eye. I hope they'll keep it in mind for H5 and make Eagle Eye more effective.

Orfinn · Unread postby **Orfinn** » 12 Feb 2006, 19:42

How can it be more effective? Increasing the chance of learning a spell?

LordHoborgXVII · Unread postby **LordHoborgXVII** » 12 Feb 2006, 19:51

It could be improved by having an instant effect (learn the spell during battle, rather than after it), if it allowed you to learn spells from creatures (including your own creatures), and/or if it allowed you to learn adventure map spells (summon boat, etc.).
Other conditions under which Eagle Eye could be more useful is if each faction had all-different spells (which we already have, though its absence was what bogged down eagle eye in H3), and if there were more spellcasting creatures.

Actually there was a very good article discussing Eagle Eye and its uses in H3 right here. A pretty good analysis, actually.

george137 · Unread postby **george137** » 12 Feb 2006, 21:49

Grail Vision seems quite useless because it will become an obsolete skill once the grail is found.

Sir Charles · Unread postby **Sir Charles** » 12 Feb 2006, 22:19

Nevermind what I previously wrote. :O) I didn't see the top of the page....WARLOCK abilities. hehe. My bad.
Edited on Sun, Feb 12 2006, 17:39 by Sir Charles

DaemianLucifer · Unread postby **DaemianLucifer** » 12 Feb 2006, 22:27

Whats the point of getting a 1st or 2nd circle spell with a skill,when those can be gotten without any skill?

King Imp · Unread postby **King Imp** » 13 Feb 2006, 07:08

LordHoborgXVII wrote:Last Aid seems ridiculous. If the tent can't move, and can't shoot, having it be able to do damage is stupid, since the enemy wouldn't come near it anyway.

This just seems silly to me too.

What's next, an ability for the ammo cart to be rolled across the battlefield to cause damage as well?

Edited on Mon, Feb 13 2006, 00:12 by King Imp

Gaidal Cain · Unread postby **Gaidal Cain** » 13 Feb 2006, 09:11

DaemianLucifer wrote:Whats the point of getting a 1st or 2nd circle spell with a skill,when those can be gotten without any skill?

Because you might not have that spell in your mage guild?

Arzang · Unread postby **Arzang** » 13 Feb 2006, 17:35

why does it say warlock abilities on the top?

oh and: "Troops under hero's control deal increased amount of damage according to their moral state."

why is that skill called retribution? it seems to work outside of retaliations as well.

Sandro123 · Unread postby **Sandro123** » 15 Feb 2006, 15:19

teleport assault is a bit strange to me. Does it mean that if you teleport a creature near an enemy, it will attack it on the same turn? Or is it something else?...

DaemianLucifer · Unread postby **DaemianLucifer** » 15 Feb 2006, 16:02

Why is Teleport Assault tied with logistics and scouting?What does a spell have to do with logistics?And the same goes for the movement special ability(Im to lazy to search for its name now).Why is teleport tied with movement?

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