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Re: Good Bye Nival?

Postby MistWeaver » Jan 30 2009, 22:00

Bandobras Took wrote:>>Why? They've never had one before. ;)


Acceptable? They did. I did. HoMM2 was always playable in singleplayer, and it still rocks.

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Postby Darmani » Jan 30 2009, 23:00

The HoMM II AI is extremely naive and predictable, and yet somehow it manages to never do extremely retarded things like keeping its strong walkers in place when there's an enemy strong walker in range., or not flagging its mines.

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Postby Asheera » Jan 30 2009, 23:04

Maybe because the game is less complex?

(don't shoot me, never played H2, don't know if it's complex or not, but I was just guessing that since it's older)
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Postby Lepastur » Jan 31 2009, 0:07

As far as I can remember, Heroes II IA wasn't genius, but it was able to make some challenge to human players on some scenarios and get fun in them. Furthermore, the single player mode wasn't ruined because of it as the Heroes V is, maybe also because the Editor Map was complete and allows you to make some things easily.
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Postby Metathron » Jan 31 2009, 1:50

Asheera wrote:don't shoot me, never played H2


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Postby Edwardas 3 » Jan 31 2009, 11:13

Don't know why but Northern American designers created the games I like most : Might Magic Universe ,Wizardry 8 and Jagged Alliance 2,yeah those two are Canadian.Maybe that crispy humor or cool designer style ?
But what is today don't they have good designers left in New World?
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Postby Ethric » Jan 31 2009, 11:34

A rumour on the internet? Well that settles it then ;)

A new developer for a new game could be interesting (it'll never be NWC, so it doesn't really matter who it is), but i suspect a new publisher could be a real boon. Except if it's an even worse one... 3DO v2: Trip Is Back 8|

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Postby Edwardas 3 » Jan 31 2009, 14:16

The piracy was much higher - main reason
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Re: Good Bye Nival?

Postby Bandobras Took » Jan 31 2009, 14:40

MistWeaver wrote:
>>Acceptable? They did. I did. HoMM2 was always playable in singleplayer, and it still rocks.


Not to derail the thread, but I can't accept that when I've watched AI heroes in Heroes 2 spend over a week simply boarding and exiting a ship in the exact same place.

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>>The HoMM II AI is extremely naive and predictable, and yet somehow it manages to never do extremely retarded things like keeping its strong walkers in place when there's an enemy strong walker in range., or not flagging its mines.


However, it does manage to do retarded things like ignoring walkers in favor of shooters.

Overall, I'd say H3 had the most acceptable AI, since they were essentially able to refine the Heroes 2 AI.
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Postby Sir Charles » Jan 31 2009, 18:19

While I was overall very happy with the AI's in both H2 and H3, the one in H1 was by far the best IMO. Yes, it was simpler and therefore easier to program, but it was still the most efficient and difficult to beat. Seriously, when was the last time any of you went back and played an expert & Ingenious King of the Hill game for H1? You may be pleasantly surprised at the actual difficulty.

And just to clarify, my source wasn't Fabrice...but rather 2 Nival insiders (disgruntled ex-nivalers I'm guessing). Reliable enough to make me believe it at least. Take that for what it's worth.
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Postby Ethric » Feb 1 2009, 1:34

Time will show, I guess :)

Edwardas 3 wrote:The piracy was much higher - main reason

What?
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Postby Metathron » Feb 1 2009, 2:03

Back in the 18th century, piracy was much higher.

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Postby Gaidal Cain » Feb 1 2009, 7:18

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Postby Metathron » Feb 1 2009, 14:46

We're talking about the 18th century. You gotta pay attention...
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Postby Edwardas 3 » Feb 1 2009, 17:11

Piracy soxs-they destroyed many genius designers.
Damn them
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Postby HodgePodge » Feb 1 2009, 22:16

Metathron wrote:Back in the 18th century, piracy was much higher.

:D

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Postby Grumpy Old Wizard » Feb 1 2009, 23:50

Too bad Nival got axed. Now another company has to start learing from square one. I wonder if Nival is still going to do another patch as promised.
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Postby Asheera » Feb 1 2009, 23:52

Let's hope so. Those Arcane Archers need a serious nerf. :P
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Postby ywhtptgtfo » Feb 2 2009, 9:03

Can anyone link me with the official confirmation? The one provided is not pointing to the right place.


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