On Nival and Heroes

jeff · Unread postby **jeff** » 27 Jun 2007, 15:17

Omega_Destroyer wrote:Have some faith jeff. I'm sure they'll (at least I hope) learn from their mistakes with the map editor for Heroes VI.

If they do that all is forgiven.

Jolly Joker · Unread postby **Jolly Joker** » 27 Jun 2007, 18:47

Caradoc wrote:Yay, Jeff. I'm with you 100%. And maybe you, JJ, and I could settle who is really the elder statesman here without actually revealing our ages. Do you remember Howdy Doody?

Sorry, I'm no American? However, I wtached some US TV series in German TV (first broadcast). Remember Kookie from 77 Sunset Strip?

jeff · Unread postby **jeff** » 27 Jun 2007, 19:55

Jolly Joker wrote:
Caradoc wrote:Yay, Jeff. I'm with you 100%. And maybe you, JJ, and I could settle who is really the elder statesman here without actually revealing our ages. Do you remember Howdy Doody?
Sorry, I'm no American? However, I wtached some US TV series in German TV (first broadcast). Remember Kookie from 77 Sunset Strip?

Ah yes Eddie Byrnes and Efrem Zimbalist Jr. father of Stephanie from Moonlighting.

Jolly Joker · Unread postby **Jolly Joker** » 27 Jun 2007, 20:05

Right. Wasn't Zimbalist starring later in FBI, too?
Seems like I've wasted a lot of time watching silly TV series.

jeff · Unread postby **jeff** » 27 Jun 2007, 20:06

Jolly Joker wrote:Right. Wasn't Zimbalist starring later in FBI, too?
Seems like I've wasted a lot of time watching silly TV series.

Yes, and it turns out there is a cable channel playing both series right now.

HodgePodge · Unread postby **HodgePodge** » 27 Jun 2007, 20:38

jeff wrote:
Jolly Joker wrote:… Remember Kookie from 77 Sunset Strip?
Ah yes Eddie Byrnes and Efrem Zimbalist Jr. father of Stephanie from Moonlighting.

Didn't Kookie have some sort of comb fetish?

jeff · Unread postby **jeff** » 27 Jun 2007, 20:53

HodgePodge wrote:
jeff wrote:
Jolly Joker wrote:… Remember Kookie from 77 Sunset Strip?
Ah yes Eddie Byrnes and Efrem Zimbalist Jr. father of Stephanie from Moonlighting.
Didn't Kookie have some sort of comb fetish?

Sure did, never left home without it.

Jolly Joker · Unread postby **Jolly Joker** » 27 Jun 2007, 20:54

Yup. Too much Elvis and James Dean I suppose.
Anyway, Kookie had a real funny voice in German. Very high and unstable, like a boy on the brink of adulthood. His speaker was a rather small and harmless looking German actor who played funny roles mostly, but around that time, completely against his usual stuff a completely nuts killer in some Edgar Wallace b/w German movie at that time - and rather convincingly at that.

jeff · Unread postby **jeff** » 27 Jun 2007, 20:57

I tell you understanding his slang in english can be difficult at time, sort of like some of Nival's dialogue. Sorry had to put that in for no other reason than to make it related to the thread topic.

Caradoc · Unread postby **Caradoc** » 27 Jun 2007, 22:15

Kooky was the first cool guy on TV. He had duck tails. Kuckla, Fran, and Ollie anyone?

winterfate · Unread postby **winterfate** » 27 Jun 2007, 22:20

jeff wrote:I tell you understanding his slang in english can be difficult at time, sort of like some of Nival's dialogue. Sorry had to put that in for no other reason than to make it related to the thread topic.

Yeah, and though I am trying to not grow up; I am afraid another disappointment (from my point of view) in the M&M universe will probably force me to grow up and walk away.

Aw...don't say that jeff...I'm sure they'll be able to deliver a better product next time (hopefully...maybe...

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jeff · Unread postby **jeff** » 27 Jun 2007, 22:53

Tell you what I'll hold that hope.

Ceres · Unread postby **Ceres** » 27 Jun 2007, 23:52

I look forward on it too! I hope H6 would be nicer, I would play longer then.

And I also noticed before that, I dunno what you call it, Scenes maybe. In the H5 Scenes, when those main hero talks, they doesn't open their mouth. Is that a bug? or it just like that?

If that's a bug, then, can I know the patch to download so it would be fixed?

Sorry, if this look like OT.

jeff · Unread postby **jeff** » 27 Jun 2007, 23:59

Ceres wrote:I look forward on it too! I hope H6 would be nicer, I would play longer then.

And I also noticed before that, I dunno what you call it, Scenes maybe. In the H5 Scenes, when those main hero talks, they doesn't open their mouth. Is that a bug? or it just like that?

If that's a bug, then, can I know the patch to download so it would be fixed?

Sorry, if this look like OT.

No it is not a bug, call it an artistic oversight. The scenes lip sink is improved somewhat in the HOF expansion.

Ceres · Unread postby **Ceres** » 28 Jun 2007, 00:08

Oh, I see. It's just odd that they were talking and not opening their lips. It let me think though, that they are talking through telepathy.

winterfate · Unread postby **winterfate** » 28 Jun 2007, 00:48

I won't even go into details about the fact that WarCraft 3 has lip syncing and it is an older game...

But, don't get me wrong...H5 has a lot of things going for it too...it's just the temptation to bash Nival is too great!

HodgePodge · Unread postby **HodgePodge** » 28 Jun 2007, 00:57

jeff wrote:
Ceres wrote:And I also noticed before that, I dunno what you call it, Scenes maybe. In the H5 Scenes, when those main hero talks, they doesn't open their mouth. Is that a bug? or it just like that?
No it is not a bug, call it an artistic oversight. The scenes lip sink is improved somewhat in the HOF expansion.

You are very kind Jeff. Artistic oversight, indeed!

Ceres wrote:Oh, I see. It's just odd that they were talking and not opening their lips. It let me think though, that they are talking through telepathy.

Even though some of the characters in the cut-scenes don't move their lips, I think the worst part is having to listen to the terrible voice acting.

winterfate · Unread postby **winterfate** » 28 Jun 2007, 00:59

Hahaha....

So very true HodgePodge!

And the horribly clichéd plot (at least the original version's plot; HoF is somewhat more original).

Ceres · Unread postby **Ceres** » 28 Jun 2007, 01:05

They were shouting very proudly, "Griffin Eternal!" and yet their lips were like zipped.

winterfate · Unread postby **winterfate** » 28 Jun 2007, 01:07

Btw Ceres, how far have you gotten into the campaigns?

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