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Postby Jolly Joker » Jun 15 2007, 5:19

Campaigner wrote:Funny how some people react and have to reply whenever somebody believes in traditional things....I too see muscles as manly and don't want women to have that.

And what does sixpack mean here? Means six beers for me :p

And why are you calling it tits all the time? We can say breats or hooters instead.

Probably addressed to me.
T*ts is basically a quote here, very "fitting" in the adolescent context of what started here. And "breats" is new for me, but let's not interpret too much into that typo now.
Funny how narrow-mindedness is always tried to be sold as "traditionalism". In this case it would mean that "traditional views" would encourage women to keep to a certain role-model: soft, weak, cuddly, probably in the guise of " good looks" ("muscles make ugly" or some other bull). It's been (and still is) one of the corner stones of oppression, and it's the uncritical repetition of "tradition" and their empty slogans that is slowing the process of reaching social equality between the sexes.

So, I see people that see muscles as manly and don't want women to have that as ignorant and immature.

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Postby Campaigner » Jun 15 2007, 5:39

I thought tits was censored and wondered why people were still using that word.

JJ: Oh, you do that. I'll see you as a politically correct feminist in the meantime.

I actually like how the people are portrayed in World of WarCraft. Men and women can have the same professions and stuff (NPCs) and are united as a people. Ofcourse it's a game which doesn't reflect reality. Just like so many women are fit for being soldiers :rolleyes:
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Postby Omega_Destroyer » Jun 15 2007, 5:42

You do see the irony of what you just wrote right?
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Postby winterfate » Jun 15 2007, 5:51

@Omega: I know I do...and all I will do is...

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Postby Campaigner » Jun 15 2007, 6:01

I'm not interested in women with visible muscles but in WoW neither the female NPCs nor the players have it. Strangely enough they can still do just a good job as the men there.

And feminist over here doesn't mean the same thing as it do on wikipedia. It basically mean "womenpower" here today. The partyleader of the pure feministparty here suggested a mantax f.e.....

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Postby Jolly Joker » Jun 15 2007, 6:26

See it the other way round.
What if women said, we don't like men with brains? It doesn't befit them. They have all these muscles and do all the hard work because of it and soldiering and stuff. You know, what good is brains there? Just a liability, actually. It's enough if they have the muscles. After all WE have the brains already, and those would just distract from their good muscular looks.

The main point here isn't your or my opinion. The main point is to accept that people should pick for themselves whether they want to have brains or muscles or whatever if they like it. Whether they are men or women, muslim or christian or whatever.

Oh, and by the way, campaigner, as far as I know Israel had women fighting in their army when the Arabs attacked them. They learned the hard way that they were pretty effective as soldiers. In fact the female units were feared after a very short time there.

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Postby asandir » Jun 15 2007, 6:58

So, I see people that see muscles as manly and don't want women to have that as ignorant and immature.


what are you the thought police? So if we don't conform to what you find attractive that makes us wrong? Jesus JJ, that's new, and rich!
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Postby Jolly Joker » Jun 15 2007, 7:25

Why, stefan? Are you the muscle police?

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Postby Mytical » Jun 15 2007, 7:41

To be honest, most guys do not like strong looking women (they can be strong, but muscles scare them for some reason). It's been that way for a long time, and no sign it is going to change anytime in the future. However, I thought this debate was about adds containing sexual images. Advertisers found out a long time ago that it was lucritive.

Attractive, scantily clad people can sell just about anything. Cars, beverages, you name it. The more skin they show, the more effective it is. Now there is the if it isn't broke don't fix it addage. It works, so why stop? Scantily clad people can be found in music videos, on the news, in newspapers, in magazines and just about anywhere you look. Lets take Paris Hilton. Personally I think she is about as attractive as a bulldog thats seen one too many fights. People for some reason think she is attractive. She shows some flesh (in a porn video) and suddenly dispite having no talent to speak of (besides being a rich spoiled brat) she is super famous. Sex sells, and there is no accounting for taste. Britney basically became famous for dressing like a schoolgirl. Christina like a 'genie' (though she does have a bit more talent then britney). And there is a certain Ms Fontaine who's only claim to fame was she danced on the hood of a car...yet became a household name at the time.

The strange thing is america, which should be one of the most open to various things, is one of the most repressed in this area. The more it gets repressed the more popular it seems to become. With proper instruction and guidence it would be a much better place. Ok I will stop ranting (incoheriently might I add).
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Postby asandir » Jun 15 2007, 7:50

Jolly Joker wrote:Why, stefan? Are you the muscle police?


now that's weak JJ

what i happen to like in women is a personal preference, I dont say that you're a freak cause you find muscular women attractive do I? in fact I don't believe I've passed any judgement on you at all, but that's just pathetic
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Postby Jolly Joker » Jun 15 2007, 8:15

Ah, but that's the point, isn't it. If it had been said that way, I personally don't like it when women are too muscular, or something like that, it would have been no problem at all.
But if you cared enough to just go back and read the posts in question, that wasn't said at all.
Anyway, you don't seem to understand that if someone (not necessarily you, mind you) judges women for the amount of muscles they have, I can just as well judge men for the amount of brains they chose to display.

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Postby asandir » Jun 15 2007, 8:27

indeed, it's when you append labels after that that the problems start
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Postby Ethric » Jun 15 2007, 12:00

Now that it's been figured out how to close the newsthread comment-section, we can finally close this thread :sweat:
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