My H5-rant\whine (long post)

[Ethric]

It doesnt turn to face the attacker,it faces just left or right and strikes up or down.

...based on where it's attacker comes from. Your reasoning here is baffling. They do turn against their attacker even though the graphics aren't intricately detailed.

Also,I prefer units not turning their backs to each other like they again do.

Now there I can agree. Like in H4, they stay they way they turned, and turning your back on a shooter means you're no longer blocking it. Allowed for lot of tactics where you try t leave your shooters free, by distracting attackers from behind etc.

Sure,it might look nice,but I still am in favour of small tiles.Leaves for many different sizes,more movement paths(thus more tactics),and doesnt require that much work(though it does require some work).

I don't have a problem with small tiles, I think it's a good solution. And small tiles may very well be square. My complaint is with huge and square tiles. If you choose big tiles, I think they should be hexagonal. And I think that could work just as well as small, but I don't burn strongly for either solution as long as it's done "right".

[Gaidal Cain]

Go and play a heroes game prior to H4, and note how the creatures taking up 2x1 hexagons turn against their attacker without any problem arising. Then we can discuss this more afterwards.

That's because they're 2d charcters. They're flat. You don't need to see where their tail goes when they turn around, but in H5 and thus most likely H6 as well, you does. You go and play H4 and note how there aren't any creatures that take up an oblong space, even if their animation suggests that they could.

[Ethric]

Oh you were talking about bodyparts going through other creatures, obstacles etc *as* they turn? I was only referring to their positioning after the turning. But sure, that could be a problem, if you make the characters "stiff" when they turn. On the other hand, if you first have decided to do it in 3d, you hould make sure that you are up to the task of making convincing 3d-models, that do look and move in a natural\logical\realistic way.

[DaemianLucifer]

Oh you were talking about bodyparts going through other creatures, obstacles etc *as* they turn? I was only referring to their positioning after the turning. But sure, that could be a problem, if you make the characters "stiff" when they turn. On the other hand, if you first have decided to do it in 3d, you hould make sure that you are up to the task of making convincing 3d-models, that do look and move in a natural\logical\realistic way.

But that would require actual work

[Gaidal Cain]

I tink it would be rather much work if they needed to create one turn animation for cases where there is free space and another when there isn't (which they'd have to do if it's to look naturally). Besides, I miss the H4 feature were creatures didn't turn back after attacking, which would mean that the need for symmetric models is even greater.

[Ethric]

Something would have to be close to impossible before I'd accept "to much work to do" as a valid argument against a feature And making dynamic animaions based on circumstance doesnt' seem *that* hard.

On the other hand, it wouldn't really bother me if it was made so that creatures occasionally moved parts of themselves "through" other stacks or obstacles, if that was the only fault.

[DaemianLucifer]

Well,we already have parts of body passing throuh others,so....