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Postby Kalah » May 2 2011, 13:29

Two new Haven heroes have just been revealed to the <i>Might and Magic</i> fans, and to those of you hungering for old heroes returning to action, there's good news ... he's back. The Lord Haart.
<p><i>A protegee of the House of Stag, <b>Lord Haart</b> showed his mettle from a young age, fighting as Lord Kieran's squire during the Elven Wars when he was only thirteen winters old.

After Lord Kieran's mysterious disappearance, Lord Haart dedicated himself even more fully to the ways of the sword, becoming the youngest Knight to ever walk the entire Duchy. Not to mention one of the bravest…
<p><b>Lady Eileen</b> first became famous for bringing identical triplets into the world. This miraculous blessing from Elrath was soon defiled as her three sons were captured by mercenaries seeking ransom, and held captive for seven years.

During this period where Emperor Liam himself offered a tremendous reward for the children's return, Eileen turned to Elrath for guidance and became an extremely devout priestess. Upon the return of her children and the beheading of their captors, her sons were far from the gentle Angels that she had once known and were sent to the schools of the inquisitors for a desperate reeducation.
Eileen continues to see them regularly, but she relies more on prayers to Elrath and the education of the church for their upbringing than her personal attention.

Eileen's secret rage at the turn of fate in her life, has given her an extremely pragmatic if not expediant sense of justice.
<p><center><img src="http://www.celestialheavens.com/homm6/images/Lord_Haart.jpg"> <img src="http://www.celestialheavens.com/homm6/images/Lady_Eileen.jpg">

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Postby DragonSire » May 2 2011, 16:06

Why were there no comments allowed in the last post?

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Postby Kalah » May 2 2011, 16:25

Because I wanted the comments in the article, not the news item.
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Postby XEL II » May 2 2011, 17:52

Back you say? They didn't even point out that he is a member of the Haart dynasty! We can't call it "the return of old heroes" when the hero isn't even established as a relative to one of the old heroes.

If this Haart is from the Haart dynasty from NWC games, where did he (or his ancestors) arrived from to Ashan? Most likely from CRON...
Make you strong places to dwell and practice the evil of your arts. Build great monuments to stand through the ages and remind your followers of the task with which you have been charged. Use these halls of iniquity to perpetrate your schemes against the infestation that has taken the fields and lakes of this land from you, their rightful masters. Never forget the hatred that must finally overcome and consume mankind. Dwell in your dungeons and brood. - Sheltem the Dark

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Postby Skullmane » May 2 2011, 18:09

Only the name is back. It would make no sense for anyone from a completely different reality to be there.

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Postby Marzhin » May 2 2011, 18:42

@XEL II: you're talking of a so-called "Haart Dynasty" but the Lord Haart of MM2 had nothing to do with the one seen in Heroes 1-3. Just like the dwarf Crag Hack of Terra has no relation whatsoever to "Crag the Hack" from MM1, or the human Crag Hack from Heroes 1-4...
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Postby Corlagon » May 2 2011, 18:55

XEL II wrote:If this Haart is from the Haart dynasty from NWC games, where did he (or his ancestors) arrived from to Ashan? Most likely from CRON...


Yes, the fellow above is Spaz Twit in disguise.

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Postby XEL II » May 2 2011, 18:59

Marzhin wrote:Inventing facts just for the sake of being right doesn't make you right, you know... :p

...true, so please don't do this because: :)
Marzhin wrote:@XEL II: you're talking of a so-called "Haart Dynasty" but the Lord Haart of MM2 had nothing to do with the one seen in Heroes 1-3.

Lord Kilburn (from HoMM 1-2 and MM6) and Morglin Jerico Ironfist (from HoMM 1) are related to Lord Kilburn and Lord Ironfist from MM1 in the sense that they are members of the same dynasty. This was made possible by the fact that Morglin Ironfist with the group of his followers (Kilburn among them) travelled through the portal on the border of Ragnar Ironfist's land, which took him to Enroth.

There is a way to travel between the Land of CRON and CRON's VARNs, so it is perfectly logical to assume that a member of Haart dynasty was among Morglin's followers, considering that Lord Haart was among Knight heroes (and was actually part of the storyline as shown in HoMM 2) in HoMM 1-2.

Of course, this Lord Haart from Heroes 1-3 may really have nothing to do with Lord Haart from MM2, but there is also a possibility that he is actually from the same dynasty.

Anyway, why not point out in Heroes 6 Haart's bio that he is a relative of Enrothian Lord Haart? :) Especially in the light of "bringing old heroes back" as you mention in practically every interview.
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Postby Corlagon » May 2 2011, 19:10

There's no evidence that Mr. Traitor had anything to do with Lord Ironfist's armies before they came to Enroth. Everybody even conveniently fails to mention that he served with Lord Ironfist in the games following Heroes I.

While it's reasonable to propose that he could've been from VARN 4 and therefore had some kind of relation with Haart Hold way off through the gate, it's still not a fact or anything that can be proven.
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Postby XEL II » May 2 2011, 19:10

Corlagon wrote:Yes, the fellow above is Spaz Twit in disguise.

Great, so will we have his Phaser among unique artifacts then? :)
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Postby Corlagon » May 2 2011, 19:20

XEL II wrote:Great, so will we have his Phaser among unique artifacts then? :)


Unlikely, but I'm currently negotiating for the "loincloth" artifact slot, so anything's possible.

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Postby Akul » May 2 2011, 19:23

I like the portrait art of these two :D
Lady Eileen also has an interesting backstory.
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Postby GreatEmerald » May 2 2011, 19:24

Going through universes is kind of difficult. Unless you have a transporter which happens to be malfunctioning or something.

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Postby MMXAlamar » May 2 2011, 20:15

It's obviously Lord Haart's grandson.

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Postby Kalah » May 2 2011, 22:14

Just so you know, my words: "The Loord Haart is back", stand intact - although I doubt most of you saw the meaning. "The Lord Haart" means "Lord of Haart" as in the realm.

The Lord Burghley was actually named William Cecil, and it is entirely possible that this new Lord Haart is in fact named something else.
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Postby MMXAlamar » May 2 2011, 23:02

Kalah, it says presumably that he's the old Lord Haart:

"...and to those of you hungering for old heroes returning to action, there's good news ... he's back. The Lord Haart."

OK this article just got very confusing!

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Postby Kalah » May 2 2011, 23:18

Indeed. ;)
And there'll be more heroes tomorrow! :D
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Postby CloudRiderX » May 2 2011, 23:51

My fingers are crossed for Christian.
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Postby Infiltrator » May 3 2011, 0:53

He looks nothing like Haart, even if I imagine him without the mustache..
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Postby Pitsu » May 3 2011, 5:39

Agree that the beard is kind of weird for a Lord Haart. And Lady Eileen is damn well preserved for being a mother of about 10 years old kids and being spent most of last 8 years under stressful conditions.


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