Does anybody use compass?

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Does anybody use compass?

Postby GrayFace » Mar 24 2019, 20:52

If you do, what is your preferred position - on the top in MM8 or near the minimap in MM6 and 7? To me it feels like something NWC just added to fill space.
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Re: Does anybody use compass?

Postby Anubis » Mar 24 2019, 23:55

Never used it until I discovered diagonal map-crossings in MM6. The only reason I use the compass is to get an exact direction of NW, NE, SW, and SE for those diagonal map-crossings but I can easily do without it. It's like you said - compass isn't that important imo.

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Re: Does anybody use compass?

Postby Neecko » Mar 25 2019, 5:00

Lol I didn't remember there was a compass. Mostly use the map and mini map.

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Re: Does anybody use compass?

Postby unknownone » Mar 25 2019, 10:01

I think it may be useful when NPC or quests give generic directions for a place, like "go west of the river", etc... I would prefer it next to the minimap as in MM6.
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Re: Does anybody use compass?

Postby Erisian » Mar 25 2019, 10:49

Neecko wrote:Lol I didn't remember there was a compass. Mostly use the map and mini map.

Same as that.
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Re: Does anybody use compass?

Postby Tress » Mar 25 2019, 12:39

Since pointer is integrated in minimap and its always aligned top/north unlike GTA where map rotates, compass is kinda redundant aside of aesthetic purposes, which nevertheless is important as seen pn MM9 where minimalist interface just kills any mood that's left in the game.

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Re: Does anybody use compass?

Postby unknownone » Mar 25 2019, 20:58

I agree with that.

Tress wrote:Since pointer is integrated in minimap and its always aligned top/north unlike GTA where map rotates, compass is kinda redundant aside of aesthetic purposes, which nevertheless is important as seen pn MM9 where minimalist interface just kills any mood that's left in the game.
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Re: Does anybody use compass?

Postby GrayFace » Apr 12 2019, 17:04

Tress wrote:compass is kinda redundant aside of aesthetic purposes, which nevertheless is important as seen pn MM9 where minimalist interface just kills any mood that's left in the game.

Not the fact that it's minimalist, but that it's so ugly! I just went and looked at screenshots and bits of gameplay videos of MM9. It almost looks like a placeholder for interface. To some degree, that might be the case.
Also, players on left and right sides I think are universally a mistake, pretty common among cRPGs of the time.
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Re: Does anybody use compass?

Postby Echo » Apr 13 2019, 15:37

Never have I ever... looked at the compass in a Might & Magic game :)

Minimap plus area map are 101% sufficient.

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Re: Does anybody use compass?

Postby Anubis » Apr 13 2019, 19:27

Do you have plans to remove the compass entirely from the MM games? That'd be interesting. @GrayFace

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Re: Does anybody use compass?

Postby GrayFace » Apr 15 2019, 5:01

Anubis wrote:Do you have plans to remove the compass entirely from the MM games? That'd be interesting. @GrayFace

No, it's for the default setting for MM8.
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Re: Does anybody use compass?

Postby Tress » Apr 15 2019, 8:33

Also, players on left and right sides I think are universally a mistake, pretty common among cRPGs of the time

Dont think that is too much of an issue. Wizardry 8 had similar setup (although its hidden for most of time) so never was problem. Baldurs gate/ icewind dale aslo had similar scheme. True that modern games like Pillars of Eternity or even TotEE have bar on the bottom, which perhaps is slightly more convenient but i dont think its ever a deal breaker, but yes considering the state of game , i would also guess it was not final look of HUD, speically considering issues like almost invisible outline of selected character, or issues with selecting NPC.

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Re: Does anybody use compass?

Postby GrayFace » Apr 15 2019, 9:13

Tress wrote:True that modern games like Pillars of Eternity or even TotEE have bar on the bottom, which perhaps is slightly more convenient but i dont think its ever a deal breaker

"Modern" is a big part of it. At first I had a thought "there's so much horizontal space on wide screens, so portraits would be good on left/right side", but then I realized that non-distracting portraits are the opposite of what's needed. Portraits must be always easily visible and on a wide screen that means placing them horizontally. On 4x3 or 5x4 monitors I'm sure horizontal portraits are better too, but for the reason that horizontally wider view seems to feel better than a square to me. But yes, there's much less difference on such monitors.
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