Games similar to Might and Magic?

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Games similar to Might and Magic?

Unread postby NCR85 » 08 Sep 2011, 23:12

a few defining characteristics i'm looking for in a game similar to M&M:
- multiple characters
- free roaming gameplay
- questing
- RPG leveling & skill system
- Western RPG style
- preferably 1st person view
- preferably well defined personalities of characters

the only one I can come up with just now is Wizardry 8, which I enjoyed a lot. If we expand the definition a little we might include things like Final Fantasy (not free roaming; Japanese style) or Daggerfall (single character). are there any other games adhering to M&M's general formula?

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Unread postby Spin » 09 Sep 2011, 01:00

M&M is definitely Unique in it's own way, they just simply don't make 1st person party-based RPGs anymore. Wizardry 8's definitely the closest you'll get to something like MM6-9. However, there are probably a few games that play closer to MM1-5, but i'd have absolutely no idea about them.

One amazing game that ticks everything but 1st person view is Baldur's gate II. I very highly recommend this game if you haven't played it.

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Unread postby MMXAlamar » 09 Sep 2011, 01:37

I've heard the Thief series is supposed to be pretty good. Not sure how similar to M&M it is, but it's certainly popular and it's a medieval RPG.

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Unread postby NCR85 » 09 Sep 2011, 02:39

One amazing game that ticks everything but 1st person view is Baldur's gate II. I very highly recommend this game if you haven't played it.
I agree that the BD series are a lot of fun, but wasn't the second installment single character based? I may be wrong, because I only ever played the XBOX version, which could be different from the PC one.
I've heard the Thief series is supposed to be pretty good. Not sure how similar to M&M it is, but it's certainly popular and it's a medieval RPG.
another great suggestion, but not very similar. it was single character, and action based rather than RPG.
M&M is definitely Unique in it's own way, they just simply don't make 1st person party-based RPGs anymore.
True. I knew there was something that kept dragging me back to this series.

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Unread postby Spin » 09 Sep 2011, 05:35

Baldur's Gate II is PC only. You usually just create 1 character and go in a party of 6 everywhere, where all characters have very deep storylines and fairly massive quests. You can also create 6 characters from the getgo but you'll lose a lot of party interactions.

You're thinking of Baldurs Gate Dark Alliance II, which is a completely different game and which i have never played myself.

If you look on Metacritic or Gamerankings, you'll see Baldur's Gate II as number 6 or 7 there for top PC games (95 metacritic score), it's the highest rated RPG on the PC ever.

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Unread postby NCR85 » 09 Sep 2011, 06:49

Interesting. BD2 sounds like something I should get my hands on AQAP. 5 posts into a thread and starting it has already royally paid off. Keep the suggestions coming guys!

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Unread postby bethrezen_2 » 09 Sep 2011, 07:50

What i wold like to see in another game is this nice magic system. Ideeas?

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Unread postby Panda Tar » 09 Sep 2011, 15:01

There's this very old game I played on the 3DO videogame called Dead Keep or Death Keep, something of the sort.

At that time, I didn't know what the game really was (RPG, action, adventure). For me it was a game, a bit hard, but long, funny. It's been like 17 years I last played it, so I cannot bring much details about it, but it had definitely orbs/spells, dungeons, monsters, equipments, lava...

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Unread postby Lord13 » 09 Sep 2011, 18:52

The game industry sadly didn't invest(and nowdays totally
ignore) the 1st person party-based RPGs, so you will find
few MnM-like games. The closest is Wizardry series(with the
8th part be the most suitable), if your are retro-fun you
can find few more games like the Ishar series or Eye of the
Beholder series etc(but most of these games requires patience
cause are really old and are complicated at their gameplay...personally
I can't play them anymore :( )
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Unread postby InvisibleTerror » 10 Sep 2011, 08:01

What about Wizards and Warriors? I really enjoyed it - especially the dungeons are lovely. :-)

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Unread postby BoardGuest808888 » 11 Sep 2011, 07:32

If you wish to expand into single player only, there be a game called Gothic which you might want to try.

For party-based non-1st person Japanese style, there be Septerra Core.

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Unread postby legendoferthia » 12 Sep 2011, 04:49

The Legend of Erthia is coming rapidly! It is now a cross between MM7 and World of Xeen. All the technical aspects are already implemented and a good portion of the levels are completed. I am am currently and steadily coming along with the story. I have about 18% of the game playable by the storyline. Work is picking up nicely. Therefore, progress should be quicker!

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Unread postby Konfuzius » 12 Sep 2011, 08:11

One of the few fantasy games I really enjoyed besides Might and Magic is TES 4: Oblivion.

The game in it's raw form isn't _that_ great, but there is an uncountable number of mods: vampire mods, weapon mods, new spells, new dungeons, monster mods, companions, graphic mods and much more.
I never finished the story but I liked the dungeon crawling feeling of it ^^

Also the expansion Shivering Isles is worth a buy.

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Unread postby hatsforclowns » 12 Sep 2011, 08:31

Morrowind is better ;)

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Unread postby BTB » 12 Sep 2011, 15:54

hatsforclowns wrote:Morrowind is better ;)
Only if you fix it. The game is horribly broken as is.

Of course, if you be looking to mod out your Morrowind...

http://btb2.free.fr/morrowind.html

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Unread postby Bandobras Took » 13 Sep 2011, 13:03

Even unfixed, Morrowind is actually a roleplaying game, while Oblivion is more the inverse of a roleplaying game.
Far too many people speak their minds without first verifying the quality of their source material.

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Unread postby Talin_Trollbane » 13 Sep 2011, 20:01

well, theres:

Yendorian Tales 1-3 (Might and Magic clones)
Bard's Tale 1-3
Ishar 1-3
Newcomer (new C64 RPG!)
Frayed Knights
Wizardrys
Dungeon Masters 1-2
Legend of Grimrock (new DM clone)

and prob more i cant remember right now.
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Unread postby koval321 » 14 Sep 2011, 10:30

There is plenty of M&M projects which will be finished in indefinite future. Am already completed something in kind of M&M DM Daggerfall etc RPG classics. Its Ravenhood, first part was experiment concept, second bring around 10x of size, and third around 10x of complexity, then last upadate 3.10 bring 10x better quality. It have all parts you are looking for:

- multiple characters
- free roaming gameplay
- questing
- RPG leveling & skill system
- Western RPG style
- preferably 1st person view
- preferably well defined personalities of characters

Check this out: http://www.moddb.com/mods/ravenhood-3

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Unread postby Lord13 » 14 Sep 2011, 22:38

Talin_Trollbane wrote:well, theres:

Legend of Grimrock (new DM clone)

and prob more i cant remember right now.
I saw some videos and read more details abou this game,
looks very nice, combines oldschool fun and a fresh feeling
(by improving gfx,more clear and easy controls etc.)
Nice finding, I will wait for this realease :)
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Unread postby thrakk » 15 Sep 2011, 01:11

Lands of Lore 1 has multiple characters. Classic game

Arx Fatalis doesn't have multiple characters but it's a great addition to the Ultima Underground world even if it had to officially drop the Ultima references before release. Plus this game had an official patch released this year (talk about commitment) (and there's a "turbo walking" fix somewhere - you might want it to). Arx Fatalis is the last great first-person fantasy RPG with the exception of the Elder Scrolls series.

I've been playing Morrowind lately. I enjoy it a lot more than Oblivion. Morrowind Overhaul is the best way to mod Morrowind. It takes a while to install, and you have to follow the instructions to a T, but it will give you a tremendous amount of hand-selected mods - the best of the best. The main thing that it is missing is BTB's Game Improvements (which adjusts cost and attributes for every item in the game but also changes the speed in which your skills level up - you might choose to use the alternative leveling settings in his zip).


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