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| Artas1984 at 2009-05-28 15:26 wrote: |
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Q U O T E:
should probably be reworded to "Fans have always appreciated the depth and richness of the Might & Magic universe created by NWC and 3DO"
--> stares at ubi's crappy HoMMV and DMoMM
"And that's the bottom line, because Stone Cold said so"
Wow, Ubisoft is getting more gay even deeper.
I don't consoder Heroes 5 and Heroes game at all, all who play it - screw you *******!!! |
| ThunderTitan at 2009-05-27 03:24 wrote: |
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| Yeah, but DM stank from the get go... this actually has a chance... |
| Marzhin at 2009-05-25 10:23 wrote: |
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| A lot of people enjoyed Dark Messiah... It is unfortunate the XBox version was such a waste. |
| Angelspit at 2009-05-25 09:49 wrote: |
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Even if this game is lame, it still will generate popularity for the HOMM name.
That's what I thought with Dark Messiah. Boy was I wrong. |
| evilp at 2009-05-25 02:39 wrote: |
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more clash of heroes screenshots
http://ds.ign.com/dor/objects/14349564/might-and-magic-clash-of-heroes/images/might-and-magic-clash-of-heroes-20090521043744964.html?page=mediaFull |
 | astral76minor at 2009-05-15 21:38 wrote: |
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| Even if this game is lame, it still will generate popularity for the HOMM name. Poetic or not, anything similar to HOMM that 'sells' gives us hope. |
| Angelspit at 2009-05-15 09:12 wrote: |
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| I'm with you Corlagon. |
| Corlagon at 2009-05-15 07:39 wrote: |
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I'm not going to involve myself in the debate about who's a real fan and whether manga artwork is true to the series. I'll say only two things:
1) While I despise the Ashan rubbish (Demons, Demons, Demons...) as much as anyone, perhaps more than most, and would love the actual, original, non-cliched Might and Magic universe back, I'm not going to equate story and setting to the game itself;
2) I'm throwing no stones at the game until I've played it. It looks like something more than a stupid cash-in. The graphics we have aren't crappy for the DS, just look at games like FF Revenant Wings which stole half of its sprites from the GBA. |
| Yurian Stonebow at 2009-05-15 05:10 wrote: |
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| Who is this Terry Pratchett? Does he work for Nival? *end of sarcasm* Thank you, thank you. *exits the stage bowing to the audience* |
| Marzhin at 2009-05-15 04:48 wrote: |
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And we used to blame 3DO for franchise milking...
No, we used to blame 3DO for making bad games. If Crusaders or Legends had turned out to be great games, nobody would have been complaining at all.
And so far, nobody can say if Clash of Heroes will be good or bad. For what I saw, I believe it will be good, but I agree it is, at this point, only wishful thinking.
I don't think art styles are interchangeable -- they should fit the overall style of a world. So far, Ubisoft (or rather their developers) have presented the world of Ashan to us in a more or less "western" dress; this drastic change is irritating and is definitely not helpful in making Ashan a more consistent setting.
Even in the NWC era Might and Magic had several changes of art style. MM3 and 4 were cartoony, then MM5 switched to a Kirby-esque comics flavour. Heroes I and II were cartoony, then Heroes III, while taking place in the same universe, had a different graphic style using 3D renders.
And anyway, when Heroes V came out, I remember pages of thread calling the art style "too manga". So, in fact, they're consistent ^^ (I'm kidding you of course)
As M&M fans, however, it's not our job to understand (or accept) marketing strategies -- it's the job of the marketing people to understand us!
Speak for yourself... I'm a MM fan and I understand the marketing strategy.
Frankly, if Ubi had to listen to the fans (well, the noisier ones, who are not representative of all the fans out there...), they would do only one thing : Heroes III over and over and over again. Which is the best move to kill the franchise, something they obviously don't want to do.
I remember Terry Pratchett once said "If I had to follow the fans' wishes, I'd have done only 20 novels about Rincewind then kill myself." So, not listening to the hardcore fans is sometimes better ;) |
| JSE at 2009-05-14 23:42 wrote: |
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And we used to blame 3DO for franchise milking...
While the game at least seems to be set in the world of Ashan (wow, consistency), the game's style of course is a major break with the quasi-naturalistic and western cartoon/comic book styles seen in all previous M&M games.
The manga style is okay for nippon RPGs -- and there are some good ones of this kind (e.g. Shining Force or the Mana series), but M&M is a brand of western fantasy!
I don't think art styles are interchangeable -- they should fit the overall style of a world. So far, Ubisoft (or rather their developers) have presented the world of Ashan to us in a more or less "western" dress; this drastic change is irritating and is definitely not helpful in making Ashan a more consistent setting.
Marketing-wise of course, it seems like a rather obvious calculation: Take a western brand which is also well-known and popular in Asia, and make it look like the kids' TV shows.
As M&M fans, however, it's not our job to understand (or accept) marketing strategies -- it's the job of the marketing people to understand us!
If we don't complain, Ubisoft might continue to "manga-nize" our favourite franchise to the point where elven antenna ears are the smallest problem!
Edited on Thu, May 14 2009, 23:44 by JSE |
| Darmani at 2009-05-14 17:48 wrote: |
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Ack, now I'm really wishing I could find my DS.
It seems they're just cashing out on the brand name, and there's nothing driving this to be in the M&M franchise. Still, if they're going to abuse branding, I'd much prefer they spread the M&M brand than most of their other properties. |
| Angelspit at 2009-05-14 12:45 wrote: |
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| The Heroes III graphics would look boring on a three inch screen. |
| Avonu at 2009-05-14 12:39 wrote: |
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| Especially when quality of these graphics is not good. Even for NDS. |
| Shad0WeN at 2009-05-14 12:37 wrote: |
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wow this is just really sad
lol at the Super Nintendo-esque graphics.
I don't see any reason why Heroes 3 type graphics couldn't run on a DS. no Might and Magic game should be made into a Manga theme for crying out loud |
| HodgePodge at 2009-05-14 11:52 wrote: |
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Better dead than crap...
…………… :rofl: …………… |
| Kalah at 2009-05-14 09:35 wrote: |
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Wow. Unique AND epic. Cool.
Nice screenshots, though. Reminds me of those old arcade games. ;) |
| ThunderTitan at 2009-05-14 05:33 wrote: |
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Better dead then crap...
But yeah, it's on the DS, which is a damn pocket calculator... of course the graphics look like an 80's game... it's the gameplay we need to be seeing... |
| Marzhin at 2009-05-14 05:21 wrote: |
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Guys... Don't you think you should actually wait a bit before bashing a game on 4 screenshots ? If Ubi doesn't expand the Might and Magic franchise and bring new players to the fanbase, Might and Magic will die, it's as simple as that.
Besides, it's not as if those were screenshots of a true MM or Heroes game : it's "only" a spin-off. As far as spin-offs go, I think the MM franchise have seen far, far worse than this one. I actually seen the game in play a few months ago at Ubi. The graphic style of the game is perfectly suited for the Nintendo DS, and the gameplay seemed deep and clever. Which, I think you'll all agree with me, the most important thing for ANY game, more important than the graphic style IMHO. |
| TheRider at 2009-05-14 04:30 wrote: |
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| Is this homemade or it is actually created by paid designers and programmers? |
| theLuckyDragon at 2009-05-14 02:22 wrote: |
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| It looks ... bad 8| |
| Yurian Stonebow at 2009-05-14 01:27 wrote: |
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Heroes V and Ubi's "Mighty Magic" meet console styled manga?
Good grief! I'll definately pass this one. *heads back to finishing his Heroes III: SoD map called American Civil War* |
| hobowu at 2009-05-13 21:18 wrote: |
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"Our fans have always appreciated the depth and richness of the Might & Magic universe"
should probably be reworded to "Fans have always appreciated the depth and richness of the Might & Magic universe created by NWC and 3DO"
--> stares at ubi's crappy HoMMV and DMoMM |
| evilp at 2009-05-13 20:57 wrote: |
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| cute！ |
| Asheera at 2009-05-13 20:49 wrote: |
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"Everyone and their mom is getting a DS, you should join in, it's gaming paradise!"
Sorry I hate consoles, I'll pass :P |
| valtor2 at 2009-05-13 20:35 wrote: |
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| Everyone and their mom is getting a DS, you should join in, it's gaming paradise! so there's no heroes-like game, it's still a pretty good platform. I would kill for a Heroes 3 port on DS! |
| Metathron at 2009-05-13 20:12 wrote: |
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"Our fans have always appreciated the depth and richness of the Might & Magic universe,"
Yeah, your fans on the PC, ya dingbat! |
Today, Ubisoft announced Might and Magic: Clash of Heroes, a puzzle RPG for the Nintendo DS that will be released in August 2009: