I have tried many parties in MM7, but I don't think I've had more success with any party than with the standard one.
I remember trying the magic party: ranger, cleric, druid, sorcerer once. I could complete the game, but the performance was rather average. Never tried a party with 2 or more members of the same class.
As for the graphics, yes: MM6 had better textures and overall more effort and detail was put into it. I don't think it had the hardware acceleration option that was present in 7, which made everything look nice and smooth. MM8 was slightly prettier than 7 but only due to texture choice (like the warm-colored sand of Ironsand vs the greenish-yellow ugly sand of Bracada).
Most poweful party for MM7
my favourits
I think that the best party is – Thief, Cleric, 2 Sorcerers.
Reasons: this party may by very simple and quickly promoted and it’s one of several parties to complete MM7 at first level without trainers. Thief and 1 Sorcerer must be necessary. Druids, Monks, Rangers, Knights are (imho) weak for quickly walkthrough without problems. Paladins and Archers are available, alternative parties may be: 2 Paladins, Thief, Sorcerer or similar another’s. If You are not interesting of game’s speed and difficulty, play with any party. You like. Sorry my English.
Reasons: this party may by very simple and quickly promoted and it’s one of several parties to complete MM7 at first level without trainers. Thief and 1 Sorcerer must be necessary. Druids, Monks, Rangers, Knights are (imho) weak for quickly walkthrough without problems. Paladins and Archers are available, alternative parties may be: 2 Paladins, Thief, Sorcerer or similar another’s. If You are not interesting of game’s speed and difficulty, play with any party. You like. Sorry my English.
Dont like magic oriented parties in mm7, since locations on mm7 dont require a lot of magic, like comparing to mm6 dragonsand, where meteor shower and starburst do miracles. Also, on mm7 ur very limited on magic since, best spells u unlock at the end of the game...
To mention A/A/A/C, with increased weapon speed bows and bow mastery at least 30+, u can reach like 20 recovery speed or less, just need to go light magic 20+ aswell, because day of the goods adds a lot of speed, that will affect recovery speed aswell. So, ur already having faster shooting archers, than 30 recovery speed knight/monk/cleric, as well as ur archers shoot (40-60)*2dmg and its ranged, so u start attacking enemy a lot sooner! Its sort of dragon party on mm8.
To mention A/A/A/C, with increased weapon speed bows and bow mastery at least 30+, u can reach like 20 recovery speed or less, just need to go light magic 20+ aswell, because day of the goods adds a lot of speed, that will affect recovery speed aswell. So, ur already having faster shooting archers, than 30 recovery speed knight/monk/cleric, as well as ur archers shoot (40-60)*2dmg and its ranged, so u start attacking enemy a lot sooner! Its sort of dragon party on mm8.
Re: my favourits
The thief is very hard to promote the first time as long as you aren't save abusing. Disarm is massively overrated in the game because of cheap healing, preservation, and regeneration. I've never found a use for stealing because gold shouldn't be a problem with a cleric for merchant.Mn wrote:I think that the best party is – Thief, Cleric, 2 Sorcerers.
Reasons: this party may by very simple and quickly promoted and it’s one of several parties to complete MM7 at first level without trainers. Thief and 1 Sorcerer must be necessary. Druids, Monks, Rangers, Knights are (imho) weak for quickly walkthrough without problems. Paladins and Archers are available, alternative parties may be: 2 Paladins, Thief, Sorcerer or similar another’s. If You are not interesting of game’s speed and difficulty, play with any party. You like. Sorry my English.
Even a non-promoted knight can get master spear, sword, body building, armsmaster, and plate. Once you have a knight duel wielding swords, you will mow through almost anything (and getting to master isn't particularly hard if you stick to the west or east side of Deyja when heading north. The only time a rogue can match-up in the entire game is the time between expert dagger and master sword, which is insignificant because even your sorcerers can get expert dagger as well.
Druids are ok until late game, but nothing special and going to Evermorn is a pain.
Monk is an ok fighter but really only picks up late once you have enchants for unarmed skill.
For rangers, anything they can do archers do better.
Paladins are fine but don't scale well late due to only expert armsmaster and not getting GM plate. On Light path basic light magic makes up for this though because of paralyze, dispel magic, and destroy undead. Don't bother with paladins on Dark.
Archers bring a bunch of GM skills, but really require a lot of hit and run to be effective because if you are in melee there will always be far better classes. If you want archers AAAC tends to be a popular choice.
Strongest from start to finish is:
Knight
Cleric
Sorcerer
Anything
The 4th slot really doesn't matter because the other classes carry anything pretty easily.
My personal preferences for the 4th slot:
Light: Knight, Paladin, Sorcerer
Dark: Sorcerer, Cleric
Considering you have invisibility I think thief is one of most easy to promote (aside of ranger). Sure champions hit like a truck, but even without save abuse there is large margin for error since doors to exit are just hands reach away. Also regarding disarm I feel on contrary since alot of chests tend to kill outright and healer might as well be victim for knock out, so it just as much save abuse. Also thief combat capability is not far from knight due to armaster mastery and dagger speed.The thief is very hard to promote the first time as long as you aren't save abusing. Disarm is massively overrated in the game because of cheap healing, preservation, and regeneration. I've never found a use for stealing because gold shouldn't be a problem with a cleric for merchant.
Re: Most poweful party for MM7
This is MAGE MAGE MAGE MAGE in every M&M after WoX, only in World of Xeen (and earlier 3) party was balanced (I hear that it also work for M&MX)mongerman wrote:What is the most powerful party in MM7? One that will allow me to decimate everything easily
Am played this party in M&M 6-7-8 where each was archmaster in one element (every points invest in only one skill)
Re: Most poweful party for MM7
Sounds like the Planeteers or the W.I.T.C.H. =)koval321 wrote:Am played this party in M&M 6-7-8 where each was archmaster in one element (every points invest in only one skill)
Thief is usually the 2nd hardest promotion (other than Paladin of course) for me, but ok.Tress wrote:Considering you have invisibility I think thief is one of most easy to promote (aside of ranger). Sure champions hit like a truck, but even without save abuse there is large margin for error since doors to exit are just hands reach away. Also regarding disarm I feel on contrary since alot of chests tend to kill outright and healer might as well be victim for knock out, so it just as much save abuse. Also thief combat capability is not far from knight due to armaster mastery and dagger speed.The thief is very hard to promote the first time as long as you aren't save abusing. Disarm is massively overrated in the game because of cheap healing, preservation, and regeneration. I've never found a use for stealing because gold shouldn't be a problem with a cleric for merchant.
I can't think of any chests other than the ones in the Haunted Mansion and the golem part in Avlee that are even slightly annoying during the entire game. Carry more potions and get an "of mana" item item for your healer if you can.
Not sure if this is related, but I always give all my characters 21 endurance on party creation (except the elf you gets all the barrels) to start with so I never have a problem with hp.
Re: Most poweful party for MM7
Am actually even dress them in element colors, like red, green, blue etc LOL Am also used rings which give bonus to element magic, probably they give bonus to % of skill (not fixed amount) so you may accumulate super powerful spells.tolich wrote:Sounds like the Planeteers or the W.I.T.C.H. =)
In MMX there is limits because player need advance to expert before invest more points, so possibly it wouldn't work so pretty. Actually its hard to get advantage over monsters in MMX it look rigid, stiff, plastic in every aspects.
Thief's promotion
I can't understand difficulty of thief promoution. Wand or scroll of paralize... And thief have anouth HP without 1st promoution and You can wait this wand/scroll. I think thief is more usefull that stupid knight.
PS. I played last several times without trainings (I hope not only I) and sure that knight is avaliable only in party with Cleric/Paladin, Thief, Sorc., but second sorc. will be very much usefull.
PS. I played last several times without trainings (I hope not only I) and sure that knight is avaliable only in party with Cleric/Paladin, Thief, Sorc., but second sorc. will be very much usefull.
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