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| dxrb2108
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CH - Heroes Family Tree Posted: Wed Jan 16, 20:14 Post subject: Heroes Family Tree |
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Can anyone draw out a good Family tree for the world of the heroes saga....
like the gryphonharts, and the ironfists..... |
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| Mirez
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| CH - Heroes Family TreePosted: Wed Jan 16, 21:07 Post subject: |
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lol wtf? 
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| Wulfstan8182
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| CH - Heroes Family TreePosted: Wed Jan 16, 22:20 Post subject: |
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huh? wtf are you talking about? are you saying you want to know who had it with who and who came out? is that what you mean? 
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| Pol
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| CH - Heroes Family TreePosted: Wed Jan 16, 22:29 Post subject: |
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Yes, I expect so. After all this is what is called family tree. 
However I don't know Heroes genealogy so good.
Still span is till H5, then it will be about a different story, so moved...
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| dxrb2108
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| CH - Heroes Family TreePosted: Thu Jan 17, 0:32 Post subject: |
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well i'll put in what i know
morglin ironfist fought is cousin for the throne
after morglin roland ironfist fought his brother archibald
roland was married to catherine gryphonhart?
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| HodgePodge
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| ThunderTitan
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| CH - Heroes Family TreePosted: Thu Jan 17, 9:10 Post subject: |
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From what we know it only goes like this:
M. Ironfist:
-> Roland If.
-> Archibald If.
King Gryphonheart:
-> Catherine If. (nee Gh.);
Roland + Catherine = Nicolai If.
Too many unknowns for anything more.
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| Avonu
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| CH - Heroes Family TreePosted: Thu Jan 17, 13:39 Post subject: |
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Well, I think it's all Ironfits' family tree, but for Gryphonheart:
- Rion Gryphonheart (founder of Erathia and slayer of Tarnum - ca. 1000+/-100 years ago)
- his daughter Allyson from Heroes Chronicles: Conquest of the Underworld (I don't remember detail but she has something with Tarnum)
- David Gryphonheart IV (birth in 580 A.S.)
- Aaron Gryphonheart IV (died in 817 A.S.)
- Niven Gryphonheart (he dethroned his mad father in Revolts of the Beatsmaster, after "hundreds of years of [Mudlanders] slavery" - so it can be earlier or later then I posted)
- Nicolas Gryphonheart+Gwenllian (she died in ambush in 1153 A.S. along with one of their daughter)
- their other daughter Catherine Gryphonhert married Roland Ironfist 1 August 1154 A.S. (she killed several of her relatives - but not details are known)
- Nicolai Ironfist (grandchild of Nicholas born ca. 1155 A.S.)
- Lord Lysander (unkown mother or father)
- also Sephinroth (she claimed to be illegitimate child of Nicholas but later she denied this)
Last edited by Avonu on Thu Jan 24, 7:19; edited 3 times in total |
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| HodgePodge
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| Avonu
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| CH - Heroes Family TreePosted: Fri Jan 18, 9:27 Post subject: |
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Thanks, but credits should belong to Ribannah and Kareeah Indaga - they posted most of the info.
Also, I added prince from HC:RotB - but I not sure when he could live. |
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| Ya5MieL
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| CH - Heroes Family TreePosted: Tue Jan 22, 22:09 Post subject: |
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| Queen Alison is Tarnum's niece (daughter of tarnum's sister who married a gryphonhart) |
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| Corlagon
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| CH - Heroes Family TreePosted: Tue Jan 22, 22:49 Post subject: |
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Some additional little-known tidbits:
Rion Gryphonheart I's wife was indeed one of Tarnum's two sisters, and Allison is Tarnum's niece (only Tarnum himself knew this though). Catherine's only sister was named Beatrice. Mad King Gryphonheart was also the ruler of Erathia during the Tatalian Revolt of the Beastmasters. He had two sons - one elder (unnamed) and one younger (Niven) who succeeded his father. Other members of the Ironfist family include Ragnar (Morglin's cousin from VARN) and Jerico Ironfist (possibly a misprint intended to mean Morglin himself, possibly a relative). Lysander Gryphonheart also has a number of siblings, though I can't be bothered to look that number up just now. His parentage remains a mystery - possibly some unknown Gryphonheart seperated at birth or something. At a stretch you could also include Finneas Vilmar as Nicolas' father (Lich King Nicolas, that is, not the living one) It's also known that Nicolas banished the Necromancers from Erathia somehow, and his presence in the storyline allows us to learn that Clash of the Dragons took place after Shadow of Death and before Restoration of Erathia.
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| Kareeah Indaga
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| CH - Heroes Family TreePosted: Wed Jan 23, 1:03 Post subject: |
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I dont see Terrance Gryphonheart mentioned yet. No dates that I can recall, but he was the one who lost the Gryphonheart Trumpet.
HodgePodge wrote:
- David Gryphonheart IV (birth in 580 A.S.)
- Aaron Gryphonheart IV (died in 817 A.S.)
May I also be so bold as to suggest that with the IV behind each of the above names, that David and Aaron Gryphonhearts I-III lived some time before those dates? |
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| Corlagon
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| CH - Heroes Family TreePosted: Wed Jan 23, 14:27 Post subject: |
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There is no date given for Terrance's mishap, only a clue (a previous Human / Elf dispute).
Where does it say that Catherine killed several of her relatives? She joined the Talon Brigade and killed Connel Traxton in a duel, that's it as far as I recall.
Hey, why don't we do one for Bracada?
Grand Vizier Gavin Magnus (II?)
Ruled from 100-200 A.S. to 1175 A.S.
There, that was easy. 
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| Avonu
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| CH - Heroes Family TreePosted: Wed Jan 23, 23:20 Post subject: |
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Added one more missing king - Lothoe IV (not too "few" of this "Gryphonheart IV" rulers?).
Corlagon wrote:
Lysander Gryphonheart also has a number of siblings, though I can't be bothered to look that number up just now. His parentage remains a mystery - possibly some unknown Gryphonheart seperated at birth or something.
Or maybe some uncle of Catherine or farer kinsmen.
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It's also known that Nicolas banished the Necromancers from Erathia somehow, and his presence in the storyline allows us to learn that Clash of the Dragons took place after Shadow of Death and before Restoration of Erathia.
Where in CotD king of Erathia is mention by name? It was probably misteke of storywriter, who don't know/forgotten that Morgan Kendal was regent not king.
And if this text is true, then CotD takes place after AB (in last scenario of Mutare's campaign she has crystal dragon), just after become dragon queen:
AB Crystal Dragon wrote:
Made entirely from red crystal and brought to life through magical means, this dragon is literally semi-transparent, lit from the center by its magical heart. This dragon was created for Dracon, so he would be properly challenged on his final test in becoming a Dragon Slayer. The Crystal dragon is an instinctual creature, attacking almost anything that crosses its path, using its claws, as it does not have the internal workings for a breath attack. If you meet one of these creatures then you know they need only their claws to turn you into tiny little pieces.
Corlagon wrote:
Where does it say that Catherine killed several of her relatives?
Here:
MM7 wrote:
However, Roland's wife, Queen Catherine of Erathia, does have a history of slaying obnoxius relatives.
Corlagon wrote:
Hey, why don't we do one for Bracada?
Grand Vizier Gavin Magnus (II?)
Ruled from 100-200 A.S. to 1175 A.S.
Not so easy - I can't find it right now but there was a text saying that Bracada had rulers - not just one king/vizier. |
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